Originally posted by bluebabygirl
I came to redhotpawn.--It is quite nice didn't make me yawn.---Chess is game I prefer to play..--- Why every win just brightens up my day!--- I may frown and cry if I lose . Play me a game if you choose...---Then if you win you may say...--- Well thanks that really brightened up my day!!! But if you lose do not cry... Or beg or plead asking Caissia why???--- Just enjoy the game ...---I play for fun ,hardly ever for fame!!!--BBG
another poet on the site .... good going Bluebabygirl !
Originally posted by RussI don't want to fall out with anyone.
Bah! I knew they would chase me for wages one day. 😉
But please, everyone, read Rhymester's post again - all of the moderators moderate voluntarily, and for that I am immeasurably grateful. Not everyone agrees with all their decisions, but please live with it - unmoderated forums would be anarchy - and a far less pleasant place to discuss stuff.
-Russ
This is a leisure site.
This is also a paid site.
Paid by subscriptions You and me pay.
So forget Russ saying they do it voluntariliy.We paid for a service.
Hide this if you dare.
Originally posted by Russruss, we all know they moderate voluntarily, but some of them reckon that volunteering makes them king (or your own personal pawns, if you will😉...)
Bah! I knew they would chase me for wages one day. 😉
But please, everyone, read Rhymester's post again - all of the moderators moderate voluntarily, and for that I am immeasurably grateful. Not everyone agrees with all their decisions, but please live with it - unmoderated forums would be anarchy - and a far less pleasant place to discuss stuff.
-Russ
but seriously, it's getting out of hand.
Originally posted by missleadThe subscription money gets you unlimited games, the opportunity to become part of a clan, and the competitive fun of taking part in tournaments. The forums are open to everyone and won't really be affected by donations, unless, as flexmore said, they dramatically raise the subscription cost and pay the mods.
I don't want to fall out with anyone.
This is a leisure site.
This is also a paid site.
Paid by subscriptions You and me pay.
So forget Russ saying they do it voluntariliy.We paid for a service.
Hide this if you dare.
Being voluntary isn't an excuse for doing a horrible job, but it definitely warrants a more relaxed approach to how they perform.
Hi all,
As you know, this is a subject that crops up with increasing regularity.
The RHP forums are critical to the site's popularity and their moderation has been far more successful than Russ or I could have hoped for when we first introduced moderated forums. Anyone who can remember the pre-moderated days will remember the "anarchy" as Russ put it. You had to wear a metal hat and a shield just to read them; it wasn't pleasant at all.
I am convinced that it is impossible to please all the people all the time with regard to how moderation is performed; from setting guidelines for acceptable posting and the methods by which the forums are kept in line with these guidelines.
Russ and I (Russ more than I) converse frequently with the moderators and are privvy to discussions on how we should be moderating posts - and I can promise you that every moderator on this site is highly reasonable and has only the best interests of the forums as their intent when they consider what actions to take. Often moderators will exchange ideas with one another before taking any action, and from my view, always with the aim of being as fair as possible.
But, of course, it can never be perfect. Please feel free to send me any thoughts you have on how to improve the process. If you can provide examples of where you believe you have been badly moderated, and why you feel that it was unjust, please also let us know. The atmosphere in the forums is very important to us and I truly believe that only a very small minority would enjoy them more if we had no moderation.
Originally posted by missleadbah! you paid for nothing - you donated to get your star, with no agreement of anything in return. Come back when you've paid for site access.
I don't want to fall out with anyone.
This is a leisure site.
This is also a paid site.
Paid by subscriptions You and me pay.
So forget Russ saying they do it voluntariliy.We paid for a service.
Hide this if you dare.
Harsh? Maybe, but I hate to see a long standing member drag this site, that has grown from a hobby to the best thing I've found on the web, down to the level of "I pay your wages". Petty.
Originally posted by belgianfreakThat is exactly correct. 🙂
I believe, but could be wrong, that mods can only hide posts, not destroy them. Therefore C&R have access to see everything that they remove.
Every post that has ever been removed by a moderator is still available for review by any moderator. They are not deleted, but moved to another page.
Originally posted by belgianfreakYou are wrong.I have on countless times given money into this site because I believe in it.You get your facts right.
bah! you paid for nothing - you donated to get your star, with no agreement of anything in return. Come back when you've paid for site access.
Harsh? Maybe, but I hate to see a long standing member drag this site, that has grown f ...[text shortened]... on the web, down to the level of "I pay your wages". Petty.
Lyn
Originally posted by missleadoh, so you've given money 'countless times' to the site because you 'believe in it'? So, if you support the site because you 'believe in it' why are you making demands that it be run your way with a level of "service" that suits you because you have paid? Sounds like someone who thinks the site owes them something, not someone who selflessly supports it.
You are wrong.I have on countless times given money into this site because I believe in it.You get your facts right.
Lyn
This is my opinion: Russ and Chrismo do an excellent job keeping this amazing site up and running for us, I think all of it is a lot harder and time consuming than most of us think. I don't care how much money anyone has paid, I don't think they deserve to be talked to the way they are sometimes and it offends me to see it. We have a right to offer our opinions, yes, they have given us that right, but my god, lighten up a little! All they and the mods are doing is trying to keep the site an enjoyable place to be, and if they go overboard every once in awhile, at least know they have the best intentions and aren't doing it just for something to do.
Originally posted by ncrosbyI agree completely with you!
This is my opinion: Russ and Chrismo do an excellent job keeping this amazing site up and running for us, I think all of it is a lot harder and time consuming than most of us think. I don't care how much money anyone has paid, I don't t ...[text shortened]... e best intentions and aren't doing it just for something to do.
I wasn't going to post in this thread originally (even though I really wanted to) because I have been trying to stay away from the forums, but here we go.
Russ and Chris are two of my best friends in the whole world! They have made this excellent site with their own sweat and blood! Not only that, but then they turn around and are constantly making it better (for all you newbies, clans are new. Back in the old day, the forums were a total mess, they gave people headaches...etc etc etc. I could really go on and on). Russ and Chris have picked people who they trust and believe in to do a task, which is to take care of the forums!
Without moderators, I can't even imagine how the forums would look! Just think about it, flaming, spamming, threads that shouldn't be there, etc. etc. etc.!
I agree and stand by everything that the moderators, Russ, Chris, and everyone else that helps the site does!
I'm sorry to step on people's toes here, but this needed to be said!
Just because people pay the $15, doesn't give them the right to do whatever they want! 15 bucks is nothing! I would be willing to pay way more than that to stay a member of this site!
"This site is the best in the world." I often say that. But recently I have found that out again. I was out the door of RHP. I became a member of several other chess sites (whom I heard many good things of) and they didn't even compare to this glorious site!
I think everyone should thank Russ and Chris (and the moderators) daily for everything they do (it is more than many of us know!).
Zach
Originally posted by mwmillerIs that page available to mods only? That's explains everything for me. I am now leaving this thread.
That is exactly correct. 🙂
Every post that has ever been removed by a moderator is still available for review by any moderator. They are not deleted, but moved to another page.
Thanx for the explanation.