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The Fox Has Been Outfoxed!

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mwmiller
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I use firefox and do not have problems with it trying to automatically install updates.

All you need to do is go into the tools/options/advanced/update section and disable the section where it automatically checks for updates.

I have manually checked for upgrades at times and installed them at my convenience and so far have not had a problem doing it that way.

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Try resetting the computer next time it gets half way through an update - that was what happened with mine.

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
Those are lightweights. I have AVG for viruses, plus a firewall and spyware protection. Nothing has gotten onto my computer through FF.
With that nothing would get onto your computer even if you made your own internet browser and started using it. 😛

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
Those are lightweights. I have AVG for viruses, plus a firewall and spyware protection. Nothing has gotten onto my computer through FF.
And McAfee is anything but a lightweight.

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I have finally proven firefox to be an inferior programme to internet explorer.
What happened was, it tried to auto update itself while I was playing some blitz so
I cancelled the updating process for the time being (I didnt want to slow my blitz down even
for a few seconds).
Anyway, I logged off and forgot all about it - then the next day I ...[text shortened]... s
less fancy features, but at least it keeps on chugging away no matter what you hit it with.
time for linux.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
Maybe its the people who parade their opinions as fact are the ones appearing as fools.
I doubt it. Anyone who has real problems with firefox probably needs some training in how to use a computer.

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Originally posted by Starrman
I doubt it. Anyone who has real problems with firefox probably needs some training in how to use a computer.
The same could be said about having problems with anything on a computer... My mom uses IE7 and she is a computard.... and she has NEVER had a problem...I think that they are equal. And of course you wouldn't think that you yourself are a fool, but it is foolish to parade your opinion as facts...you should put "I believe..." before you state something when it is your opinion.

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Originally posted by Starrman
I doubt it. Anyone who has real problems with firefox probably needs some training in how to use a computer.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
The same could be said about having problems with anything on a computer... My mom uses IE7 and she is a computard.... and she has NEVER had a problem...I think that they are equal. And of course you wouldn't think that you yourself are a fool, but it is foolish to parade your opinion as facts...you should put "I believe..." before you state something when it is your opinion.
I think the main difference is, the 'moms and grandparents' who use the net have a few trusted sites they usually visit, like email etc. - they don't 'use' the web.

When you start really using the net, including downloading software, gaming, research etc. then you open yourself up to possible virus/malware infiltration and in this regard FireFox gives you much more 'out-of-the-box' protection.
It isn't the end all in securing and protecting yourself, but any web savvy person will tell you that there is no substitute for FF at the moment.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
The same could be said about having problems with anything on a computer... My mom uses IE7 and she is a computard.... and she has NEVER had a problem...I think that they are equal. And of course you wouldn't think that you yourself are a fool, but it is foolish to parade your opinion as facts...you should put "I believe..." before you state something when it is your opinion.
As Crowley said, a computard doesn't utilise half the things a good browser can offer. I'd wager that also goes for anyone who prefers IE to FF (given that they aren't just a moron who is clinging to what they've always used out of stubborness) but hey, it's your loss.

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Originally posted by Starrman
As Crowley said, a computard doesn't utilise half the things a good browser can offer. I'd wager that also goes for anyone who prefers IE to FF (given that they aren't just a moron who is clinging to what they've always used out of stubborness) but hey, it's your loss.
You are out of line calling me a moron. You are the one contradicting yourself. First you say, "Anyone who has real problems with firefox probably needs some training in how to use a computer." and then you say, "a computard doesn't utilise half the things a good browser can offer" as a reason why they don't have problems with IE...so you just basically said that IE is better...because a computard which browsers, at least when first downloaded and not customized, should be geared towards can have problems with FF but they don't with IE.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
You are out of line calling me a moron. You are the one contradicting yourself. First you say, "Anyone who has real problems with firefox probably needs some training in how to use a computer." and then you say, "a computard doesn't utilise half the things a good browser can offer" as a reason why they don't have problems with IE...so you just basically sa ...[text shortened]... ot customized, should be geared towards can have problems with FF but they don't with IE.
I didn't call you a moron, learn to read. And whilst you're at it, try and work out why there's no contradiction in what I posted, perhaps you'll manage it eventually.

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I get calls like this nearly everyday, and while I can understand you don't need to know how an engine works to drive a car, it is a bit different with computers.

If you kill the power to your machine during a process, that process will almost certainly result in a fault of some degree or another.

It doesn't matter which programme you are using, if you stop it from doing something it has started (and if you allowed it to start in the first place without understanding what is about to happen), you are opening yourself up for trouble.

A good example is when the old XP (and perhaps even the newer operating systems) used to do a system update along the same time as a Norton update, the two would undoubtedly end up fighting each other leaving the poor end user with the black screen of death and the perpetual restart.

You ask any front line tech support person one of the things they fear most (and apart from Win Millennium and a customer who has no idea), right up there would be a failed update with a job half done.

If your lucky some fashion of system restore may help you with FF or perhaps even a clean install, if it is IE (which is basically your operating system) things are not that easy if you need to repair your browser.

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Well the whole computer is pretty much up the spout anyway - it is 6 years old now so struggles to do some tasks, and it can only really be turned on when the room is cold or it crashes very quickly.

That was the reason I dont want automatic updating programmes at the moment - they are just trouble, at least until I get round to getting a new computer.

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I installed ff a few weeks back for the umpteenth time, because I needed a bookmarklet that works only in ff. it took me about 5 minutes to spot the first incorrectly rendered page (a black link is shown white, and a hidden form field's visible). a minor problem which doesn't really disturb me, but it makes you wonder what else ff just discards. ff has never parsed scripts correctly, unlike ie (the problems of which have been more about ms adding nonstandard functionality, not unlike what ff is doing now).

security-wise, it doesn't really matter what you use. that's pure internet-kiddie-hax0r bs. in reality, practically all security problems you'll face will require you to willingly do something stupid, like downloading infected software or running random mail attachments.

everybody on facebook has witnessed how incredibly gullible the average user is. there isn't a day when you don't receive a "click forward, and see who's been looking at your profile" -type of spam. when people are like that, it doesn't matter what possible academic exploits your browser or os has, because most of the people WILL open an email attachment named "britneyspearsgettingpounded.exe" from an unknown sender. it doesn't take a security expert to exploit that.

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