08 Nov 07
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Originally posted by Red NightI am not entirely sure what you mean, but to clarify...
So a transexul is different than an asexual?
If someone is born without sexual desires of any sort, than using the same argument for changing the gender of a transexual, wouldn't that make the asexual person gender neutral....agender if you will...one of those xe's your always talking about?
- Asexuality refers to sexuality (or the lack thereof)
- Transsexuality refers to gender identity
- Intersexuality refers to biological sex; some intersexed people also have an intersexed gender identity, while others identify as male or female (I guess that would technically make them transsexuals, although I don't think it is usually seen that way)
"Xe" can be used either as an intersexed pronoun (to refer to an intersexed person) or a gender-neutral pronoun (to refer to a person whose gender is unknown to you). I don't see where asexuality would come into this, but there may be transsexual people who are biologically male or female, but identify as intersexed or "agender" (nice word), and in that case I would use "xe" or their own preferred intersexed pronoun to refer to them.
08 Nov 07
Originally posted by NordlysTransexuality probably refers to sexuality as well.
I am not entirely sure what you mean, but to clarify...
- Asexuality refers to sexuality (or the lack thereof)
- Transsexuality refers to gender identity.
So why are asexuals not entitled to the same type of gender correction.
asexuals should be agender.
08 Nov 07
Originally posted by Red NightBeing asexual doesn't mean you don't have a gender identity, and as far as I know, most asexual people have a gender identity that fits their biological sex, just like most sexual people (all asexual people I know, including myself, do). So why should they have a gender correction, unless they are also transsexual?
Transexuality probably refers to sexuality as well.
So why are asexuals not entitled to the same type of gender correction.
asexuals should be agender.
08 Nov 07
Originally posted by NordlysDoes gender matter outside of a sexual situtation?
Being asexual doesn't mean you don't have a gender identity, and as far as I know, most asexual people have a gender identity that fits their biological sex, just like most sexual people (all asexual people I know, including myself, do). So why should they have a gender correction, unless they are also transsexual?
Most of the asexual people I know are fairly non-descript in terms of gender.
I think that if you are going to lable transexuals as the gender they prefer, you need to afford the same benefit to asexuals and proprerly label them as agender.
09 Nov 07
Originally posted by Red NightGender is part of who we are. I don't see it as a very significant part of who I am, but I have many other characteristics that are part of who I am without being very significant, and I wouldn't want those to be changed just because they aren't all that significant either. For example, my hair colour is quite insignificant (definitely less significant than my gender), but that doesn't mean I'd want it to be changed or referred to as colourless. Also, being asexual doesn't exclude the possibility to be interested in romantic relationships and to be attracted more to one gender (so some asexual people also identify as straight or gay), in which case gender obviously matters.
Does gender matter outside of a sexual situtation?
Most of the asexual people I know are fairly non-descript in terms of gender.
I think that if you are going to lable transexuals as the gender they prefer, you need to afford the same benefit to asexuals and proprerly label them as agender.
If an asexual person would ask to be labled as agender, I would respect that. But as I said, the asexual people I know don't seem to have problems with their biological sex and identify as such. The only asexual person I refer to as "xe" so far is intersexed.
09 Nov 07
Originally posted by NordlysI have to agree that you should respect people's wishes in these matters.
Gender is part of who we are. I don't see it as a very significant part of who I am, but I have many other characteristics that are part of who I am without being very significant, and I wouldn't want those to be changed just because they aren't all that significant either. For example, my hair colour is quite insignificant (definitely less significant than ...[text shortened]... and identify as such. The only asexual person I refer to as "xe" so far is intersexed.
