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Originally posted by cashthetrash
It is obvious Mate in three.

No it's not.

Just to make my point clear. That is the position before white sacs a queen which scruffyjeffy claims indicates cheating. The queen sac is indeed winning but if you stick the position into an engine it'll tell you that Qd4! is the best move by two pawns.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
The queen sac is indeed winning but if you stick the position into an engine it'll tell you that Qd4! is the best move by two pawns.

Any engine?

Originally posted by rhb
Any engine?

Both Fritz and Crafty agree and the gap is wide enough that I'd think almost all engines would agree.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Both Fritz and Crafty agree and the gap is wide enough that I'd think almost all engines would agree.

I found the game in question. So you are saying based on that one move you think the played wasn't using an engine? Because he moved Qd1xg4 instead, of Qd4 right?

Originally posted by cashthetrash
I found the game in question. So you are saying based on that one move you think the played wasn't using an engine? Because he moved Qd1xg4 instead, of Qd4 right?

I can't say anything of the sort based on one move. I can however say that claiming someone is a cheat based on that move is ridiculous.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I can't say anything of the sort based on one move. I can however say that claiming someone is a cheat based on that move is ridiculous.

Understood and I Agree. Wish you had said that earlier.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I can't say anything of the sort based on one move. I can however say that claiming someone is a cheat based on that move is ridiculous.

Won't be able to check this until I get home but, I agree that saying someone is cheating based on one move is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous if its true that an engine prefers Queen to d4 over the queen sac though, if engine settings are modified, it may take g4 instead. As bad as my end game has been on here I probably would have completely missed the g4 move and done d4 myself, hard to say. I would have thought most people would miss that move while an engine wouldnt.