Originally posted by YUG0slavWell, here's an update, I've played 4 games with the KID setup now (one got classified as A45 because white played like an idiot) and I've won all 4. So, I'm going to keep experimenting with it and see how things go.
it's really similar to why black can't play 3. ...d6 in the scotch game
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. e4 d6?!
4. dxe5 dxe5
5. Qxd8+ +=
Originally posted by cmsMasterThat's 100%! 😀 For what it's worth Radjabov frickin won again today. In a KID'ish game. He's an unstoppable force! 😀
Well, here's an update, I've played 4 games with the KID setup now (one got classified as A45 because white played like an idiot) and I've won all 4. So, I'm going to keep experimenting with it and see how things go.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!Yeah, he's insane, his play with it makes me a little more encouraged to use it too. He's absolutely destroying the bayonet attack and the move Ne6 right now.
That's 100%! 😀 For what it's worth Radjabov frickin won again today. In a KID'ish game. He's an unstoppable force! 😀
If you like the French then 1.d4 e6 is an option. If 1.d4 e6 2.c4 occurs you can go for a sharp gambit line with 2..c5 or a slow positional build up with 2...b6. 2...Bb4+ is also possible if you want to trade of dark squared bishops, this is known as the Horwitz/Keres Defence. I hope that helps.
Originally posted by tonytone2er, he doesn't do the french, but 1. ...e6 is a great option for the positional players vs e4, d4, AND, c4
If you like the French then 1.d4 e6 is an option. If 1.d4 e6 2.c4 occurs you can go for a sharp gambit line with 2..c5 or a slow positional build up with 2...b6. 2...Bb4+ is also possible if you want to trade of dark squared bishops, this is known as the Horwitz/Keres Defence. I hope that helps.
Originally posted by c guy1I would totally recommend the classical dutch. I play 1. f4 so am very at home with the positions it produces.
phhhht you thinkthe KID is oncompromising, then you should see the dutch leningrad. Current theory says that this opening (Dutch Leningrad) is for the most part the KID with +1 tempo. Besides, doesnt pushing f pawns give you King Gambit players some sick, twisted joy inside anyways (I by the way fear pushing f pawns in any e4 game, but I for some reason fee ...[text shortened]... h it in this one). Give it a shot, if you don't like it, try the Classical dutch or Stonewall.
1 point to make. If you are comfortable with the french defence it is better to answer 1. d4 with e6 rather than f5. That way you can side-step a lot of anti-dutch second moves for white. 95% you will get white playing 2. c4 but occaisonally you will get 2. e4 hence the need to be comfortable with the french.