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A quick (dishonest) way to the top 10

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The only concern I have about mossgroup is if he took his inflated rating into real games.

I have played him in real games in tournaments, and did not find it to be much of a challenge as his real rating is somewhere between 1000 and 1100. My wins did not impact my rating.

But if during this tournament he shoots his rating up to 1500, then my win counts more.

Why is this bad for me? Because when I lose to a 1200 legit it hurts my rating more!! πŸ™„

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That's the whole thing about a player who cheats. Regardless of if they play normal games or just shoot up the rankings playing with themselves.

Either way they hurt us. mossgroup is giving out points to players who didn't earn them, messing up their ratings. And why Paul0 would keep him in his clan is just a mystery to me.

pakaya is messing it up for most all of us, most people in the top 20... and poor Jira who is no longer in the top 20. Even my ranking is screwed up since pakay and mossgroup make extra accounts.

I really hope Russ will try to figure out a way to handle this, I think it is almost top priority to find these people... warn them... and deter people from doing it in the future.

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Ravello
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Originally posted by Phlabibit
That's the whole thing about a player who cheats. Regardless of if they play normal games or just shoot up the rankings playing with themselves.

Either way they hurt us. mossgroup is giving out points to players who didn't earn them, messing up their ratings. And why Paul0 would keep him in his clan is just a mystery to me.

pakaya is messing i ...[text shortened]... ority to find these people... warn them... and deter people from doing it in the future.

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HOLY WORDS!πŸ˜€

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Originally posted by Pyrrho
While this is a very fast rise, I don't see any reason to suspect that anything else than a looser with nothing to do for a day, a great number of accounts and a little planning is required to produce the sort of a meteoric rise that pakaya has come up with.

Thinking that the administrators were "in on it" seems like one of the most implausible conspir ...[text shortened]... that this sort of a sudden rise with false acounts could not be missed by site users.

-Jarno
So here we are. Nearly 48 hours since joining RHP and pakaya is still in the #8 spot after just 46 moves and 44 straight wins, despite much protestation in the various forums.
No comment and/or response from site admin. so can we now safely assume a conspiracy? Right Pyrrho?? Have we not learnt ANYTHING from the Zach debacle?
Tell you something - this lady is seriously considering with-holding her shortly due subscription until there is some resolvement to this issue.
Considering the amount of Tourney games I am involved in I could play a whole year for nothing! easily!! So get it sorted.

a dark side serve from the skeeter.


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Originally posted by skeeter
So here we are. Nearly 48 hours since joining RHP and pakaya is still in the #8 spot after just 46 moves and 44 straight wins, despite much protestation in the various forums.
No comment and/or response from site admin. so can we now sa ...[text shortened]... !! So get it sorted.

a dark side serve from the skeeter.


What are the chances that neither Russ or Chris, have seen this forum?, and if they have, why haven't they announced some sort of reprimand?

-The Wandering Toilet

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
What are the chances that neither Russ or Chris, have seen this forum?, and if they have, why haven't they announced some sort of reprimand?

-The Wandering Toilet
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bbarr
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We've seen "players" like these before. They are called 'Figs', so named in honor of "three figs", the first player to employ this strategy. Sometimes Russ resets their ratings to 1200, sometimes he doesn't. From what I've seen, Russ will take action if enough of us get pissed about a particular instance of artificial rating inflation. If you want to make sure he knows that this is going on with "pakaya", then send Russ a personal message.

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And when someone messages him remind him abut mossgroup... he last told me a few days ago that he was sleeping on what should be done.

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Originally posted by skeeter
So here we are. Nearly 48 hours since joining RHP and pakaya is still in the #8 spot after just 46 moves and 44 straight wins, despite much protestation in the various forums.
No comment and/or response from site admin. so can we now sa ...[text shortened]... !! So get it sorted.

a dark side serve from the skeeter.


face it skeeter you just are not top 15 material.

glad to see you and ravello are on the same team πŸ˜€

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
pakaya is messing it up for most all of us, most people in the top 20... and poor Jira who is no longer in the top 20. P-
good. i am playing jira - maybe now i will have a chance πŸ˜›

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Originally posted by flexmore
face it skeeter you just are not top 15 material.

glad to see you and ravello are on the same team πŸ˜€
Yep, no 'top ten' for me yet. Well, not since Godzilla gazumped me while I wasn't lookingπŸ˜• So, sorry LL, by all means do go on your tramping trip but better take ur lappie and a sat uplink or despair and yet another tourney exit awaits you on return. Thats life AND chess, dearie.πŸ˜€

Ravello and I are OK, now he has stopped trying to devise ways to time me outπŸ˜‰ and all things considered, he does have a valid grizzle. Top 20 OR newbie rating, the likes of the 'mossgroup's and pakaya's' should not be tolerated on this site and the reluctance and/or inability of the admin. to deal with these protenscious infractors expeditiously, really really annoys me, and I have already threatened to with-hold my upcoming subscription renewal in another forum, unless we get some form of redress.

the skeeter

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This whole affair presents a bug: in the FAQ it is stated that both players have to have played at least two moves before a new rating is calculated. Pakaya has evidently not done this. A large clamour to Russ to fix this!

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Originally posted by piderman
This whole affair presents a bug: in the FAQ it is stated that both players have to have played at least two moves before a new rating is calculated. Pakaya has evidently not done this. A large clamour to Russ to fix this!
so how did pakaya get a 2050 rating if in fact, by your theory, did not play more than two moves in any game, which he clearly did not.

More conspiracy? As a popular bard was once said to have written : "something is rotten in the state of Denmark"

the skeeter

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Originally posted by skeeter
Yep, no 'top ten' for me yet. Well, not since Godzilla gazumped me while I wasn't lookingπŸ˜• So, sorry LL, by all means do go on your tramping trip but better take ur lappie and a sat uplink or despair and yet another tourney exit awaits you on return. Thats life AND chess, dearie.πŸ˜€

Ravello and I are OK, now he has stopped trying to devise ways to tim ...[text shortened]... ming subscription renewal in another forum, unless we get some form of redress.

the skeeter
Skeeter,

You are making me sick, you are announcing even before I'm going away for only 4 days that you are going to time me out, whether my vacation status is on or not.

Furthermore, you are accusing Russ & Chris of terrible things, they would never allow anything like this... They're the ones who created this great site, without them, we wouldn't even be here!

You're just pathetic.

Olav

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Originally posted by skeeter
So here we are. Nearly 48 hours since joining RHP and pakaya is still in the #8 spot after just 46 moves and 44 straight wins, despite much protestation in the various forums.
No comment and/or response from site admin. so can we now safely assume a conspiracy? Right Pyrrho?? Have we not learnt ANYTHING from the Zach debacle?
Tell you something - this ...[text shortened]... whole year for nothing! easily!! So get it sorted.

a dark side serve from the skeeter.


Yup, now it all makes sense! A cheater boosting his rating and Russ (who never really does anything on the site, and could not possibly be busy with more pressing matters) not doing anything about it for A NUMBER OF DAYS, clearly this is proof that Russ is conspiring against his own site. I'm sure that if we dig around a bit more, we'll find all kinds of skeletons in his closset... by this rate he'll surely succeed in his evil plan to drive down RHP, if someone doesn't expose him! Probably had a hand in the Kennedy assasination too, and had his fingers in faking the moon landing! πŸ˜•πŸ™„

If you really consider this a matter of such urgency, then drop Russ a polite note saying so, pointing him to the relevant threads. I think it is the experience of most people on the site that Russ and Chriss respond quickly to feedback, and take action when needed. In my experience, they do their utmost to ensure a good gaming experience to the users of this site. I think that the level and speed of updatating, improvements, and new ideas on this site is commendable, second to no site I've used. Moreover, the membership fee is very reasonable. I simply cannot undestand your eagerness to discredit the people behind it.

-Jarno

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