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Am I too old to get good at chess?

Am I too old to get good at chess?

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
Yes, you're much too old to be playing chess. 😕
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm.

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Originally posted by isthislikecheckers
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm.
It's not.

IC

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Originally posted by isthislikecheckers
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm.
I'm 51 years old, does that give you a clue? 😉

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Akiba Rubinstein learned the moves at 16 and was a world class player.Had a master trainer,which probably helped a lot.Also studied 360 days a year.

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Originally posted by Ice Cold
I'm 51 years old, does that give you a clue? 😉
You are old, officially. Old starts at 50.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
You are old, officially. Old starts at 50.
I think I got an early start when I hit 45. 😞

finnegan
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Originally posted by wormwood
1. not all IQ test have limited time. in fact, the modern ones usually don't.

2. memory monsters don't rule the top player list.

3. strong players relay on muscle memory, weak players on conscious thinking. observed fact, verified by CT-scans.

4. chess is not basketball.
What on earth do you mean by "muscle memory?" The test I have encountered with brain scanning - using Judith Polgar as subject - suggested that when she played five minute chess she was using that area of the brain normally devoted to recognising faces. She had stored a huge library of chess positions in an accessible form and could rapidly spot a good fit. The calculating - when done - was really checking for possible errors or differences. However, other players have long said that typically, their first idea is the best and if anything, thinking and calculating can spoil a good idea and replace it with a less good - or plainly bad - one.

More generally, genius has been associated with immense amounts of practice - it is contentious to claim it is nothing but that, but large amounts of time are essential. When the young Chopin, a child prodigy at the piano, was sent to a professional teacher, the teacher decided not to offer any technical lessons playing the piano, but concentrated on exposing Chopin to a range of excellent music. Of course the Polgar sisters were exposed by their father to countless chess positions and expected to solve them as a daily discipline.

In order to survive, we have to master an awful lot of skills during childhood. I think it is accepted that human brains are at their most intelligent and flexible when we are about 11 years old. Without doubt, this is a good time to catch the train if you want to become a genius. But the life stories of child geniuses is generally unhappy. It is interesting that Chopin's father did not allow him to become a full time child prodigy nor to play for money, like Mozart and others, but instead Chopin had a normal (for his day) schooling. He emerged a hugely likable and pleasant character but was no less a genius for that.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
If you succeed at solving little problems, you will win.

Pondering positions without seeking truth seems senseless, even to the Zen master.

Without self-improvement, life lacks its spark.
I am doing postmortems on as many of my games as I can find time for and it's fascinating. Aside from the worst stupidities, it seems to me that every game offers lots of scope for snatching the advantage or losing it, often quite subtly. I have had great positions against much stronger opponents (but not recognised it), suicidal positions against weak ones (and not recognised it). I have been giving up trying in games which I could have saved or maybe won.

If anything, every game has now become just a preparation for the really interesting work - the postmortem. I don't want to memorize lines. I want to understand what is happening. And I don't really mind how long that takes - the process is the point. The only purpose of playing is play.

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depends on your intelligence, I was rated 700+ a few months back and a complete begginner, now I expect to be 2000+ by the turn of the year.

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Originally posted by hintjul
depends on your intelligence, I was rated 700+ a few months back and a complete begginner, now I expect to be 2000+ by the turn of the year.
😵

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Originally posted by hintjul
depends on your intelligence, I was rated 700+ a few months back and a complete begginner, now I expect to be 2000+ by the turn of the year.
I think you will find that going from 700 to 1400 is not the same as going from 1400 to 2000.

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but my intelligence is of the scale!

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you cant measure it.

Paul Leggett
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Originally posted by hintjul
but my intelligence is of the scale!
Did you mean "off the scale"? There's just something poetic about someone having a spelling error in a sentence with that kind of claim... 🙄

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Originally posted by finnegan
I am doing postmortems on as many of my games as I can find time for and it's fascinating. Aside from the worst stupidities, it seems to me that every game offers lots of scope for snatching the advantage or losing it, often quite subtly. I have had great positions against much stronger opponents (but not recognised it), suicidal positions against weak ones ...[text shortened]... lly mind how long that takes - the process is the point. The only purpose of playing is play.
Good god, that's a brilliant post.

And may I add, that the only purpose of living is life.

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