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RE: question on the Sicilian

I have had some horrible experiences playing the Sicilian, blown off the board most times.

Is it because I lack the positional vision ? or that my knowledge of the Sicilian and its transformations is severely lacking ?

The players I played with are better than me by 100 or 200 ELO, if that is supposed to mean something.

Thanks a lot 😀

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Originally posted by legionnaire
Actually, I'll give a shot at answering my own question and ask what people think of the Yugoslav for white. I have only tried it once or twice but it seems to equalize nicely for white, and allows for firm control of the d file by white as soon as it opens. Any thoughts on this stratagem?

-mike
I don't even know the 'yugoslav' but trying to equalise as white seems a bit silly to me.White should get at least some kind of small advantage,if not a large one.Maybe you could give 2.Nc3 a try,or 2.c3 like someone else here suggested.Both are good systems that put a lot of people off.

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The Alapin and smith-morra gambit have both turned out to be fairly useful against sicilian defenses in some of my more recent games, particularly with individuals who aren't that comfortable with many of the main lines that come up from those moves.

Here's a question for black: In the dragon, to accelerate the fianchetto and castle I often find myself in the position where I have my dark bishop fianchettoed behind my king's knight at F6. What is the best way to avoid the dreaded Bg5 pin (to my queen) on that knight? I've tried developing it to E7 instead of F6 (this requires an additional tempo to play e6, but it's a good move nonetheless) and the same thing can happen with Bg5, while I have sacrificed control of e4 to white by playing Ne7 instead of Nf6. Any suggestions here?

White's dark bishop can be especially irritating if Bg5 is followed by Qd2 - which results in the loss of the fianchettoed bishop as well as having white's queen in an uncomfortably close position to my castle.

-mike

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I suppose it's quite a theoretical plan to play Bg5 followed by Qd2, so mostly it is no clear advantage for either side, as the most important piece for attacking black's castle is is sacrificed against the most powerful defender, I would'nt care that much

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Originally posted by legionnaire
The Alapin and smith-morra gambit have both turned out to be fairly useful against sicilian defenses in some of my more recent games, particularly with individuals who aren't that comfortable with many of the main lines that come up from those moves.

Here's a question for black: In the dragon, to accelerate the fianchetto and castle I often find my ...[text shortened]... ishop as well as having white's queen in an uncomfortably close position to my castle.

-mike
In the Dragon, I would avoid playing e6, which would cause the pin in the first place. Also, it weakens the dark-sqaures around your king. Bg5 is a book move in the Dragon and really is not that big a deal. If you want to avoid him exchanging your Bg7 then play Re8 so when he plays Bh6 you can play Bh8 without losing the exchange. Although in the dragon those wasted moves may give white some time. Also, look for tactics when he plays Bh6 as he loses some control over d4. 😀

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Originally posted by villa68
1.e4 c5
2.d4 xd4
3c3 xc3

the smith-morra

this is a fun opening to do against the sicilian
gives white great attacking opportunities
What if I (black) play 3. .. d5?

Olav

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Originally posted by LivingLegend
What if I (black) play 3. .. d5?

Olav
well then it's the smith-morra declined

i personally think that d5 is the best way to decline the gambit as it meets the normal requirments of the sicilian to push d5 as soon as it is safe to do so

I met this in over the board play (a 1800 rated player aprox)

1. e4 c5
2. d4 cxd4
3. c3 d5
4. Qxd4 Nc6
5. Bb5 a6
6. Bxc6+ bxc6

this is how i proceeded to handle it, game eventually went to drawish endgame but with less than 5 min on my clock and 15 on my opponents, he turned down a draw (i was 1300 rated aprox at time also) and played on, i made an error with less than a min left on clock which let him gain an advantage which was possible to win from even though he was down to 3 min.

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here is an interesting smith-morra game 2 of my friends played

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Originally posted by villa68
207687


here is an interesting smith-morra game 2 of my friends played
I would like to see that game,but you didn't give any names.How can I search games by number?😕

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Originally posted by SirLoseALot
I would like to see that game,but you didn't give any names.How can I search games by number?😕
Paste this into your web browser:

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewhistory.php?gameid=207687

If you store that string somewhere - eg as a shortcut, you can edit it to view any game you have the number of.

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Originally posted by whitedisc
RE: question on the Sicilian

I have had some horrible experiences playing the Sicilian, blown off the board most times.

Is it because I lack the positional vision ? or that my knowledge of the Sicilian and its transformations is sev ...[text shortened]... 200 ELO, if that is supposed to mean something.

Thanks a lot 😀
The Sicilian is not really my cup of tea although I haven't done all that bad the few times I've tried it. It does seem to live up to it's rep as 'sharp' or double-edged. I either eat or get eaten with it...

More to the point... a 200 point difference is probably going to be decisive no matter what opening you choose. At least it seems to be for me, either up the scale or down. Even 100 points means the opponent is noticeably stronger.

I think I read somewhere that someone 200 points higher will win 75% of the time. If that's true then even someone only 100 points higher than you should still win somewhere between 75% and 50%. Call it 2/3 of the time? That's just a WAG (wild assed guess) on my part!

Maybe the Sicilian is just not for you, have you tried any other Black responses?

Note: this is not to say that you shouldn't play against tough opponent's. On the contrary... it's the only way to slowly get better!

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Originally posted by dmatzek
Hey all

If you know your opponent playing Najdorf or a sicilian dragon, why not test
e4 c5
Nf3 d6
c3
as the most popular variant on the 2.c3 sicilian is d5, i propose this
could be a variant with a strong centre, where white might not be forced to leave its d-pawn to its opponent's c-pawn, i just played it in some 5-min-Games, connected with the ide ...[text shortened]... also played the smith-morra in some 5-min-games, it's great fun attacking till one lies down😉)
Actually, d4 instead of your recommended c3 didn't go too badly for me in this game, although my pawn structure never looks particularly well developed!

http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/viewhistory.php?gameid=227902

Wouldn't c3 tend to constrict ones left-hand knight a bit?

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If you know that your opponent plays the Najdorf, then there is an aggresive an interesting reply.

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 d6
3. d4 cxd4
4. Nxd4 Nf6
5. Nc3 a6
6. Tg1

With the idea of g4 and attack

This was played in Moscow 2002.
White. Vassily Ivanchuk
Black. Garry Kasparov.

And in fact it turned out that Ivanchuk won. Well if it works against Kasparov, why shouldn't it work at RHP.

Best regards
Banach, University of Copenhagen

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Originally posted by Banach
If you know that your opponent plays the Najdorf, then there is an aggresive an interesting reply.

1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 d6
3. d4 cxd4
4. Nxd4 Nf6
5. Nc3 a6
6. Tg1

With the idea of g4 and attack

This was played in Moscow 2002.
White. Vassily Ivanchuk
Black. Garry Kasparov.

And in fact it turned out that Ivanchuk won. Well if it w ...[text shortened]... nst Kasparov, why shouldn't it work at RHP.

Best regards
Banach, University of Copenhagen
I see this variation a lot when I play the Sicilian, but I don't play 5. .. a6, but I play e6, or sometimes e5, but that isn't really good...

Olav

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