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C

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according to the tutorials in chessmaster both e4 & d4 are good moves to open with.. why? the tutorials say having centre pawns makes it hard for your opponent to create a plan for attack

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Playing Sicilian alone does not guarantee a sure win gainst King's Pawn. Although it is a popular opening, not everybody can simply play Sicilian and be successful with it. The difference in White's opening basically is that the King's Pawn is more dynamic than Queen's Pawn Opening. Queen's Pawn is more positional. So it depends on the palyer's style of playing. Opening is only one part of the game. There is still the middle game and the endgame to master. Finally, learning openings is about understanding the ideas behind them, not memorizing them.

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Umm Sicilian is forced win for black unless the black player is rated 10 as I've stated before.

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theres no such thing as a forced win from an opening, like krpvksprv said theres 3 elements to a game opening, middle & end game. Some people say chess dont start till end game. heres a few GM games which defeat the sicilian.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1069612
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1069754

and heres the whole list few draws in here to I see a game with a draw from e4 opening 😉

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.[WORD TOO LONG]

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this one is good
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1292995

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Umm CenterNut I don't know if you noticed but both of those games where black lost using the sicilian, black was an infant. First game black is half a year old, second game black is 2 years old. I would be surprised if their rating was higher than 0.9 repeated.

The draws you stated where prearranged between the players so that they could rest between rounds for real competition.

Of course there are forced wins from an opening look at this: (Im black) 1. g4?? e5!! 2. f4?? Qh5#!!, so you see from the second move of the opening I had a forced win.

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I play petroff or sicillian or owens defence as black against 1.e4 and I play either the benkos opening or vant krujians opening (i think thats how you spell it) or regular 1.e4 Im trying to cut down on all the openings I use becuase its hard to study them all at one time!

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Siciallian isnt a forced win... Those are types of mates not forced wins what instead of playing f4 after g4 they played something like b3

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yes i know the games are old but Garry Kasparov is a master of the sicilian. Where do you get this info from its a crazy statment you're making a forced win from an opening, i'll say again openings do not win the game.

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Originally posted by shortgoth1
You know, in the last ~40 games I've started as black, all bar three have been 1.d4, with one being the Grob and the other two being the English.

Also, I always play 1.e4 and almost everyone (~90😵 replies with the sicilian. Even the non-sicilian players tend to go for strange replys rather than 1...e5 (Scandinavian's very popular for some reason).
...[text shortened]... /b] strong?

Should I give in and join the massed ranks of the Queen's Pawn/Sicilian openers?
Shortgoth, the reason for playing the grob is two get out of the sterotypical pawn to king four. To play king's pawns opening and do well with them, requires a lot of time and effort for a chess player. Queen pawn and unorthodox openings i think are better. Leaving your avg club hack more time to study more important things such as endgames.

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Originally posted by jones662
Shortgoth, the reason for playing the grob is two get out of the sterotypical pawn to king four. To play king's pawns opening and do well with them, requires a lot of time and effort for a chess player. Queen pawn and unorthodox openings i think are better. Leaving your avg club hack more time to study more important things such as endgames.
the grob is a trick opening to play against unsuspecting players..
here http://www.logicalchess.com/resources/openings/grob/

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