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Originally posted by chessisvanity
He plays fine....i am playing him now....and he controls the center fine.

I think he just wants everything yesterday.
Oops!
Yeah actually Game 4335535 is played ok in the opening.
I think the line played is too simplifying though, with
14.c3...c6
15.Qb3 looking perhaps more threatening.
Shame that game got away from you.

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Originally posted by stockton1984
ooh so are you prepared to prove that? Will you accept a challenge game for me? Unrated if you wish 😀
20+ moves in under an hour?
This is a C.C site. No prizes for speed.
Your quality of analysis won't be brilliant in blitz.

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he took the center and won.

his complaints are due to him wanting everything yesterday i think.

he is easily 1400 but maybe moving too fast keeps him back?

we played a game in 15 min....if he slowed down he would be 1400+

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Thank you so much for all your analysis squlechbelch it's very much appreciated 🙂

Oh and would you like to tell everyone how you mopped the floor with me, chessisvanity? 🙂

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lol i'm drunk. and you are a 1400 in sheeps clothing.

you ain't no 1200.

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Originally posted by chessisvanity
lol i'm drunk. and you are a 1400 in sheeps clothing.

you ain't no 1200.
Game 4407164
7 consecutive pawn moves from black.
Eesh!

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he was saying that people weren't making proper opening moves....so i showed him that it doesn't matter....just make good moves to win.

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Originally posted by chessisvanity
he was saying that people weren't making proper opening moves....so i showed him that it doesn't matter....just make good moves to win.
I thought he clearly meant book moves in sound openings.
Not that unorthodox hypermodern stuff, although at -1300 I suppose you frequently get a pawn frenzy opponent.

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at 1300 you get those crazy pawn moves....and he did well.

so when is squelchbelch going to join my clan?

Clan 24911

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Originally posted by chessisvanity
No player(under 1800) follows main lines...if we did then it is just a memory game.

And anyone below 1800 will not benefit from "openings study"

Yes we may learn a few lines...but we(under 1800) won't know why we are playing the moves we memorized.

And also...just because your opponent didn't play the "main line" or "best move"...doesn't mean his/her move is wrong.
Don't make hasty generalizations and pretend you know what each rating class knows. Not every player is the same and I'm sure several players may be very familiar with some openings and understand them very well but remain at under 1800 for various other reasons such as poor endgame play.

I'm sure that on a correspondence site where databases are allowed, numerous main line openings are played. It also wouldn't be "just" a memory game at all because main line openings tend to be very rich and dynamically balanced. Even after 25 moves into the Semi-Slav, King's Indian or Sicilian, the possibilities are infinitely richer and more complicated than one will usually find just playing with general principles. There is ample room to outplay your opponents if you're really better and of course you have to understand the positions well-enough to handle deviations.

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I thought he clearly meant book moves in sound openings.
Not that unorthodox hypermodern stuff, although at -1300 I suppose you frequently get a pawn frenzy opponent.
Yes, because the Queen's Indian, Grunfeld and King's Indian are totally unsound. 😛

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Originally posted by exigentsky
Yes, because the Queen's Indian, Grunfeld and King's Indian are totally unsound. 😛
... and exactly which of these is Game 4407164 ?

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Originally posted by exigentsky
Don't make hasty generalizations and pretend you know what each rating class knows. Not every player is the same and I'm sure several players may be very familiar with some openings and understand them very well but remain at under 1800 for various other reasons such as poor endgame play.

I'm sure that on a correspondence site where databases are allow ...[text shortened]... ter and of course you have to understand the positions well-enough to handle deviations.
they way you talk....whether you are right or wrong...does not apply to under 1800.

What you said is for strong players 1800 and up.

And anyone who goes 25 moves deep and then "out plays" his opponent is above 1800.

It all comes down to Tactics....under 1800 control center and train in Tactics....

You show me a 1600 player who is an expert in the Sicilian and i'll show you he is a Master posing as a pazter.

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
... and exactly which of these is Game 4407164 ?
That would be the "pawn power variation" of the uh....uh i dunno...

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Originally posted by chessisvanity
they way you talk....whether you are right or wrong...does not apply to under 1800.

What you said is for strong players 1800 and up.

And anyone who goes 25 moves deep and then "out plays" his opponent is above 1800.

It all comes down to Tactics....under 1800 control center and train in Tactics....

You show me a 1600 player who is an expert in the Sicilian and i'll show you he is a Master posing as a pazter.
A 1200 rated player making sweeping generalizations about players under 1800... uhm, what do you know about what it takes to get to 1800? I'm guessing nothing, or you'd be there by now.

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