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24 Sep 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireThere's a world of difference beween a player matching an engine by 90% (extremely rare unless cheating) and someone matching by 70% (fairly normal). Yes, he was probably exaggerating.
90% is an "off the top of his head" statement made on the spur of the moment when I saw him last week and tried to convince him to join. Most likely its 70% to 80% I imagine. I would presume his correspondence grade is circa 2600.
I don't know if you are saying this (maybe you are and its possibly true) but a lowly rated player using an engine would t ...[text shortened]... s real name will not be a problem. I think he plays in 4NCL for either Guildford or Barbican.
I still don't understand how he is able to achieve a 2600 rating in correspondence. Ok, he has more time to think about his moves compared to OTB. but so do all his opponents! Most players who are active in both OTB and correspondence chess tend to have similar ratings. For instance, I'm rated about 50 points higher on RHP than my Elo rating.
If he really is 2600 strength in correspondence chess then he should easily be one of the top players here. Akizy and Weyerstrass had better watch out!
24 Sep 06
Originally posted by JusuhHaha, I like that expression you used. Something new.
I would not say. Thanks for pointing that out.
I know you aren't here to practise your English. This is a horrible place for that.
I think you are just here to take stabs at people and laugh at them. In that case, you are in the right place!
25 Sep 06
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Originally posted by adramforallStrong players all, I'm sure you will agree.
That rather limits who you are talking about
Guildford
http://www.4ncl.co.uk/0607_reg_gui.htm
Barbican
http://www.4ncl.co.uk/0607_reg_bar.htm
Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?
Edit: However, having looked at the members in these lists I find he has moved to Wessex in the 4NCL. Imagine my surprise to find that there are 4 other players in that team who I am also been working on to join us here on RHP. All have voiced similar concerns about possible cheating accusations. Maybe its an excuse because they have there hands full but 5 players from Wessexs 4NCL team playing here will be a bonus.
Of course they may not all be that great as 2 of them I have beaten OTB before.
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by David TebbI think thats my fault as I picked up somewhere that RHP grades were alledgedly 200 or so points higher than OTB for most people so I simply added that to his grade.
There's a world of difference beween a player matching an engine by 90% (extremely rare unless cheating) and someone matching by 70% (fairly normal). Yes, he was probably exaggerating.
I still don't understand how he is able to achieve a 2600 rating in correspondence. Ok, he has more time to think about his moves compared to OTB. but so do all his opp ...[text shortened]... he should easily be one of the top players here. Akizy and Weyerstrass had better watch out!
My RHP grade is currently 100 above my OTB grade due mainly to improved opening performance but I am optimistic I can convert this with improved OTB play this season. I have played more KGA here for example in the last few months than OTB in the last 10 years and that must result in an improvement.
25 Sep 06
Someone ranked 2350 Elo would not match 9 out of 10 moves with a GM for that matter let alone an engine. If you have seen the difference between 2700 and 2500 games you would also note the difference with 2300 games.
Do you have a sample of the said players games against recognised opposition?
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireOnly if they give me lessons 😛
Strong players all, I'm sure you will agree.
[b]Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?
Edit: However, having looked at the members in these lists I find he has moved to Wessex in the 4NCL. Imagine my surprise to find that there are 4 other players in that team who I am also been working on to join us here o ...[text shortened]... be a bonus.
Of course they may not all be that great as 2 of them I have beaten OTB before.[/b]
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by z00tLook in the British Chess Magazine. Plenty of games played by them in there for Wessex in the 4NCL.
Someone ranked 2350 Elo would not match 9 out of 10 moves with a GM for that matter let alone an engine. If you have seen the difference between 2700 and 2500 games you would also note the difference with 2300 games.
Do you have a sample of the said players games against recognised opposition?
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireDF: Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?
Strong players all, I'm sure you will agree.
[b]Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?
Edit: However, having looked at the members in these lists I find he has moved to Wessex in the 4NCL. Imagine my surprise to find that there are 4 other players in that team who I am also been working on to join us here o ...[text shortened]... be a bonus.
Of course they may not all be that great as 2 of them I have beaten OTB before.[/b]
Not really. Why would you think going through all this trouble to drag a player onto an internet chess site he is not inclined to join on his own is "worthwhile"?
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by no1marauderBecause they will play for our clan!
DF: Now if I can just get one of them to join that will be worthwhile won't it.?
Not really. Why would you think going through all this trouble to drag a player onto an internet chess site he is not inclined to join on his own is "worthwhile"?
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireI did not ask for 2300 games in general there are loads in the British Championship of which I have the pgns. Show me some of the games of your friend specifically where 9 out of 10 moves of his match up with a top engine (not GnuChess). You do not appear to understand the difference between 2300/2500 and 2700 (whose moves would be expected to match top engines).
Look in the British Chess Magazine. Plenty of games played by them in there for Wessex in the 4NCL.
What is the difference in Gormally's game with that of Adams may I ask, (assuming you know who they are)?
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireIf you want to get your clan up in the tables, you need players who play a lot, at whatever level. If you have a player with a very high rating, you might not get many challenges for him even if he wants to play a lot, because there are not so many other players at that level out there. So unless you want to play in the leagues, having high-rated players in the clan isn't really an advantage.
Because they will play for our clan!
25 Sep 06
Originally posted by NordlysAh, but it's the kudos. Like wearing a vest made of solid gold.
If you want to get your clan up in the tables, you need players who play a lot, at whatever level. If you have a player with a very high rating, you might not get many challenges for him even if he wants to play a lot, because there are not so many other players at that level out there. So unless you want to play in the leagues, having high-rated players in the clan isn't really an advantage.