Originally posted by najdorfslayerThe main plus of Anti-Sicilian systems is pure psychology - Sicilian players tend to underrate these systems - Garry Kasparov have pointed it out in his "Revolution in the 70s " talking about 2.c3 Sicilian 🙂
Speaking personally I breathe a sigh of relief when players don't play an Open Sicilian.
I believe that the Open is by far ther most challenging option for White.
that is not to say that OTB in certain situatins other moves are better.
I cetainly have a healthy respect for all Anti-Sicilians such as
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 (Rossilimo/Moscow ...[text shortened]... se after 2.c3 and 3.Bb5 or 2.Nc3.
So I say come on you wimps bring on your Anti-Sicilians!!!
Using 2.c3 sicilian I`ve won many strong experienced Sicilian players who did expect me to play 2.c3.
Originally posted by greenpawn34in the case of 2..e6 which system do you guys advocate, i have read that the Kings Indian attack is an excellent choice, recommended by none other than Fischer himself, although my own attempts are quite futile.
Looks like us anti-Sicilianites have hi-jacked this thread.
Which is a bit of a shame but we were invitied to make a comment.
As for chess players being childish - I think all chess players have a
sleeping childish streak running though them.
(me included - two streaks!).
Look at the tantums we throw when we lose sometimes.
And you just hav ...[text shortened]... sucks. nah nah nah nah nah nah.
PS 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 (damn! now I'm annoyed - no 3.Bb5).
Originally posted by robbie carrobieagainst 2...e6 3.d3 is good Anti-Sicilian choice.
in the case of 2..e6 which system do you guys advocate, i have read that the Kings Indian attack is an excellent choice, recommended by none other than Fischer himself, although my own attempts are quite futile.
Dear NJ.
The British Championships comparison.
If you look who played who in anti Sicilians - the chances are
Black was going to win no matter what opening was played.
And the lads who play anti-Sicilians in your league have most likely
just played it on the spur of the moment because they want a game
of chess and not a memory test. So they do not know the finer points of Bb5, c3, b4!? a4! (The Scud) or the Grand Prix.
I don't know why the Pirc was brought into this. I play(ed) the Pirc/Modern,
Latvian, Philidor, Scandinavian or St.George. All depends on who I'm
playing and the situation.
No Sicilians - I never open 1.c4 so why do I want an English a tempo down?
PS. 1.e4 c5 2.a4 The Scud is my own invention - though it has no
doubt been played before. I've got so use to playing Bb5 I keep
forgetting I know this.
Black usually walks into the Povah Gambit which is a Black gambit
v the English. I have 100% P.4 W.4 I started playing it around the
time of the first Iraq war - hence the name. The Scud.
hi, my friend and i 'invented', an opening which we call the Regensburg attack, cause he lives in Regensburg and its all the rage in the coffee shops there, anyhow, its been discovered before, approximately about 5 or six centuries ago and probably been played millions of billions of times, but because we are noobs we thought we had invented it, and as it turns out Korch himself plays it, 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 d3, however, on doing some research into this venerable opening we came across this, the Urusov Gambit, apparently first analyzed in 1857 by Prince Sergei Urusov (sometimes rendered "Urusoff" or "Ouroussoff"😉, a friend of Tolstoy and one of the best Russian players of the mid-nineteenth century after Petrov, any of you guys played this or know if its sound or been refuted or whether white gets into difficulties etc etc 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nf3.
Originally posted by najdorfslayerany nice links? (I'm already checking out the andrew martin link) -I've been going through dorian rogozenko's anti-sicilian book for the past days, and could use all material I can get to support that.
I have recently spent [b]more time studying Anti-Sicilian lines than I have Open lines [/b]
Originally posted by wormwoodHonestly, playing it is the best way to learn an opening.
any nice links? I've been going through dorian rogozenko's anti-sicilian book for the past days, and could use all material I can get to support that.
You can read a book and study how to swim.
But you must one day jump in the water.
And you can only learn to swim if you are already in the water.
Use Skittles, blitz, set-ups on here, v a box (at a low level).
Originally posted by greenpawn34sure. but it's not what I asked though. 🙂
Honestly, playing it is the best way to learn an opening.
You can read a book and study how to swim.
But you must one day jump in the water.
And you can only learn to swim if you are already in the water.
Use Skittles, blitz, set-ups on here, v a box (at a low level).
almost none of my opponents dare to enter the mainline dragon. so I've played a couple of hundreds anti-sicilians by the seat of my pants so far. I do okay (considering), but now it's time to get rid of all the stupid losses. to take it to the next level.
Originally posted by greenpawn34I haven't, but I'm not really looking for the easy way out. sort of the opposite, really. to cover as much ground as possible, over time. then I'll move on, and do the same again. breadth instead of depth, for now. I'm not aiming for the latest novelties, just the solid basics.
Have you tried the accelerated Dragon 2...g6.
Just trying to cut down your workload and get you into
something you are familiar with.
Originally posted by wormwoodI have the Rogozenko book as well but do not like a lot of the lines he recommends. I much prefer Pallisers two books which I have given links to below.
any nice links? (I'm already checking out the andrew martin link) -I've been going through dorian rogozenko's anti-sicilian book for the past days, and could use all material I can get to support that.
Such as 1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6.
I prefer 2...d5 which is given in Pallsers book.
I also really like the chapter on 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 a6 (Annoying lots of GP and Closed Sicilian Players)
http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=435
http://www.everymanchess.com/display.php?id=263
I have worked through these lines in a lot of detail and is where I tend to get most of my Anti-Sicilian ideas.
Originally posted by najdorfslayerthanks, I'll look into that. I've had my doubts with some of rogozenko's choices as well, but it'll probably happen with any source, so I'm just taking what suits me and leaving the rest be. until someone beats me silly with the lines I've ignored, that is, and Im forced to reconsider. 🙂
I have the Rogozenko book as well but do not like a lot of the lines he recommends. I much prefer Pallisers two books which I have given links to below.
Such as 1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6.
I prefer 2...d5 which is given in Pallsers book.
I also really like the chapter on 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 a6 (Annoying lots of GP and Closed Sicilian Players)
http://www.everym ...[text shortened]... ugh these lines in a lot of detail and is where I tend to get most of my Anti-Sicilian ideas.
how's the palliser's book on readability? the rogozenko seems to be a bit sparse on the explanation/idea side, giving out just notation ending to an evaluation without the reasoning behind it... sort of like writing down only the result in a math exam.
Originally posted by najdorfslayerAs black, I like the open sicilians.
Speaking personally I breathe a sigh of relief when players don't play an Open Sicilian.
I believe that the Open is by far ther most challenging option for White.
that is not to say that OTB in certain situatins other moves are better.
I cetainly have a healthy respect for all Anti-Sicilians such as
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 (Rossilimo/Moscow ...[text shortened]... se after 2.c3 and 3.Bb5 or 2.Nc3.
So I say come on you wimps bring on your Anti-Sicilians!!!
As white, I often play closed.
larsen said that 3. d4 was a mistake and in many ways I agree with that assessment.