14 Oct 06
Originally posted by russell chadbournePardon my language but that is baloney. Go and learn what zugwang means from the chess encyclopeadia. Don't post such trash in the only chess forum where newbies/people who don't know chess can take your trash as fact.
After e5, White is in Zugzwang:
14 Oct 06
Originally posted by tmetzlerI must admit that any initiative black gained in Game 939468 evaporated quickly.
Defend, yes, but white seems to be doing fairly well here:
http://www.chessatwork.com/tournament/view.php?tid=793&rndid=6
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Originally posted by Falco LombardiThe thing to remember if you are going to try the From's Gambit against 1.f4, is that anybody that plays 1.f4 with any type of frequency is going to have a lot of experience against 1.. e5 Whereas the black player may not, and there is not a lot of room for error in the From's
I say play 1. f4 e5. If they transpose into the King's Gambit, then you can try the Falkbeer CounterGambit.
1.. d5 is by far the most common reply that I see.
Some From's games by high rated, or formerly high-rated RHP players.
Game 508583 El Bruto arrakis
Game 1096714 El Bruto Redmike
Game 1267046 El Bruto thesonofsaul
Game 1267049 El Bruto malinga
Game 515166 LivingLegend Simbad
Game 570259 LivingLegend yashin
Game 570442 LivingLegend Tequila
Game 570746 LivingLegend sundown316
Game 573828 LivingLegend SirLoseALot
Game 610645 LivingLegend cevans
Game 893663 LivingLegend Redmike
Game 2387493 Tengu Regicidal
14 Oct 06
ok the f4 opening is called the birds openig but I believe white tries to get to this position f4 Nf3 d4 e3 Bd3 o-o and then does Qe8 Qg4 and have a king side attack or push your pawn to c4 when the time is write. but your only weakness is e5 squre black could control it with a knight but if they don't ddo e5 as soon as it is safe
and no I did not read it from a book or used a
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Originally posted by jonzzzzWhat you are describing with f4 Nf3 d4 e3 Bd3 is the stonewall setup.
ok the f4 opening is called the birds openig but I believe white tries to get to this position f4 Nf3 d4 e3 Bd3 o-o and then does Qe8 Qg4 and have a king side attack or push your pawn to c4 when the time is write. but your only weakness is e5 squre black could control it with a knight but if they don't ddo e5 as soon as it is safe
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Which is not really as popular as the others --although it is my preferred setup. The common thought on this is that it is a waste of the extra tempo that you gain over the reversed (dutch) positions. It also opens up a potentially deadly hole on e4.
The "Classical Bird" involves f4 Nf3 e3 Be2 0-0 d3
There is also the "Leningrad Bird " which is just tactically scary (for me anyways) involving: f4 Nf3 g3 Bg2 0-0
Or the "Antoshin Variation" which is new to me, but looks fun and I'm going to start trying it out soon: f4 Nf3 d3 c3 Qc2
14 Oct 06
Originally posted by slickhareIt seems perfectly fine according to my very cobbled together database: 34% white, 42% black, 24% draw. But as there are a variety lines from that point (sometimes white fianchettos is Queenside biship, sometimes black his kingside one, sometimes both), you'll have to investigate for yourself which one is best for you. Or play From's.
so was Nf6 not a good move?
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Originally posted by no1marauderTim Taylor in his Bird book had this to say about 1.f5 c5
MCO-14 calls 1..... c5 the "professional's response to the Bird". I've only faced a few Birds but White usually plays c4 at some point and it generally evolves into a symmetrical English setup, which I find quite comfortable as Black.
"As everyone knows there are many die-hard Sicilian players out there and they don't want to play your opening -- they want to play their opening. This immediately creates a condition of psychological warfare. After all, one of the great advantages of the Bird is that on the first move Black is forced to defend against White's specific opening choice. But the Sicilian fan tends not to be too compromising. I alluded to this in ... in which I mentioned that I sometimes adopt a Stonewall against Sicilian systems in order to force Black into a Bird line rather than allow him to stay in his comfort zone."
Andrew Soltis in his Bird book had this to say about 1.f4 c5
"The player who answers 1. f4 with ..c5 is saying 'Look, I don't want to play a theoretically approved move like 1..d5 and get into some crazy opening you know better than me, so I'll try to coax you into a Sicilian Defense position. Please play 2. e4.' Even Bobby Fischer in a Candidates Match game against Bent Larsen, met 1. f4 with 1..c5"
Sounds like they are describing No1 fairly well, eh? 🙂
14 Oct 06
Originally posted by tmetzlerGee, I'd luvvvvvvvvvvv it if the Bird player followed with 2 e4 which is a poor version of the Grand Prix Attack. I don't believe any of them ever have though. You have the data; how many Birds have I faced here as Black? What are the games? I have all my games on my old computer which isn't working anymore.😞
Tim Taylor in his Bird book had this to say about 1.f5 c5
"As everyone knows there are many die-hard Sicilian players out there and they don't want to play your opening -- they want to play their opening. This immediately creates a condition of psychological warfare. After all, one of the great advantages of the Bird is that on the first move Black is fo ...[text shortened]... rsen, met 1. f4 with 1..c5"
Sounds like they are describing No1 fairly well, eh? 🙂
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Or the 299 games of yours in my database where you were black, you met 1.f4 3 times total. You have replied 1.. c5 all 3 times and won all 3 games.
Game, Winner, White, Black
Game 771054 B Exy no1marauder
Game 822078 B tmetzler no1marauder
Game 875088 B KlingonDon no1marauder
The KlingonDon game was followed up by 2. e4