06 Oct 05
Originally posted by tolikcheturi1) Do not post flaming, insulting, spamming e-mails, in response to a thread in the chess forums, and hide under the "don't post private PM" rule. The rule wasn't meant to be abused like that, the alternative was to report your PM and have you banned immediately, be thankful I chose to merely expose you as a coward. Nazarov, same goes to you.
Ok. This guy just wants this and i will definately be angry now. First of of I e-mailed that message to you becaue I didnt want others to hear the swaers and if you carefully read my thread you should have noticed that I wrote the same things in the thread with a nice language. And, let's reply your thread as Kotov's Methodical thinking, so you know I ...[text shortened]... se, but because it's you...''
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2) The fact that you make fun of my english is laughable and hypocritical. You write more broken down sentances then anyone I've ever seen, and you don't respect the rules of english punctuation. A lot of the paragraphs you accused me of not writing properly, you merely didn't understand the common english expressions. Do you want me to speak, "simpleton", for you next time?
3) Just look at yourself. Your short stay here in the chess forums, everyone, except Nazarov, has attacked you, maybe it's just you? Ever thought of that? Everyone of your threads/posts has been complete and utter garbage and I am just tired of it. You often flame, insult, post in all caps mindless drivel one thread, apologize, then resume, 1 minute later, in another post. Some posts you even go from angry, to apologetic, to angry again all in the same post! What is this exactly? Early matapause? Schizophrenia? Are you just going to continue to accuse anyone who disagrees with you as engine cheaters and in bloody anger, sacrefice all your peices in all your games? Please do.
4) When I said, "isn't that cute?" I didn't mean it in some homosexual way you juvenile. Besides, I'm not some adolescent, and I don't attach myself to things/people who are "cute", that's like some pheudo pedophilia, for the record, I go after hot/sexy women. What I meant by, "isn't that cute?", I was refering to the stupid little mouthy kid always looking for attention, trying to get accepted, trying to get friends, and trying to get mothers to give him a hug, I said that because I PITY you, and I still PITY you.
06 Oct 05
Originally posted by ark13I always understood you I disagree! 🙂
You haven't proven anything to me. All you've done is put words in my mouth, babbel incomprehensibly, and refer to sources of "research" that you haven't cited. I'm not a stubborn person at all, but the only thing you've proven to me so far is that you don't know how to prove something.
You've just told me that engines are excellent tacticians an ...[text shortened]... that's out of a computer's depth, and basic principles which computers don't posess much of.
06 Oct 05
Originally posted by ark13Haven't you heard? Tolik is the great quiet chess grandmaster who studies advanced algorithm and could literally walk over any of us inferior intellects around the world and have sex with any woman he wants because he's just that good! He's just that great, and he's always right! Engines weaker in the middlegame yet super strong in the endgame? Who can debate with that wonderful theory?!
I know that, hence the argument.
I thought you were leaving...
It's clear to me you can prove yourself right, or even me wrong, so you might as well go.
06 Oct 05
Originally posted by tolikcheturiThen for god sake, just ignore me and quit posting how you are an angry deliquent trying to ignore me! It isn't that hard, is it? How about you just play chess and stop posting completely?
And I dont need this other guy's anything and I ignore him 🙂 and for you what's up man? Did you take my words as a sign of anger or enthusiasm?
06 Oct 05
Originally posted by ark13I know, it's so much fun to egg this kid on! I guess I should thank tolik, the laughs were great! Thanks tolik, you made my day! It was fun.
I don't blame you. And I'll admit I am trying to egg you on. 🙂 But you haven't proven anything with your posts.
06 Oct 05
well I am tring to make a good point! those are not even my original ideas man. It has been proven before that computers are better in endings than middle game. Because there is more creativity and abstract thinking involved in middlegame whereas in the engding things are more concrete.
and this other hatufl guy who is again out of blue talking about homosexuality (where did that come from???) I just ignore him and you do the same please 😵 Just not very well educated I guess.
and i am not angry to you bro, I am super enthusiatic that is why we are having a great firey debate here. I love it indeed!
06 Oct 05
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It is a great debate I think...Are computers better in endings or middle game! I say endings ! And I am still not angry! And do not think you are homo or pshco or anything...we are sharing ideas! but if you feel like the other guy and wanna insult i will leaave ! I was just enjoying man!
and here I am not talking to the raging idiot savant, my words are for ark.....
06 Oct 05
Originally posted by tolikcheturiIt's funny that you say that, if I lose to an engine, it's usually in the middlegame, rather then an ending. If I do manage to reach an ending that's even against a comp, it's usually a draw, and many times, frustratingly enough, the comp doesn't even know it's a draw, and plays on with ya endlessly. So really, how good can comps be at endings, if these programs can't even recognize complex drawn out endgames that can go on for eternity? While two good human players, rated above 1800 or higher, in such endings, would be real sports about it and just accept the draw and realize it's a draw after careful calculation?
It is a great debate I think...Are computers better in endings or middle game! I say endings ! And I am still not angry! And do not think you are homo or pshco or anything...we are sharing ideas! but if you feel like the other guy and wanna insult i will leaave ! I was just enjoying man!
Maybe it's just me, maybe by some miracle you are right and that's a coincidence. Personally I think the ending is the key to ever beat a computer, the computer knows the entire database of chess openings by heart (you will get outplayed here), and it's tactics are amazing in middle game play (you have to be so defensive and solid to survive this), most programmers admit, the endgame is the comps weak point. Programmed endgame tables help with this, but a computer that considers every move, even irrelevant ones, has trouble with some of the most basic of endings as endings are filled with numerous irrelevant moves quickly dismissed by a good human player in less then a second, and there are just so many unique endings, it's like a game of it's own, and endgame tables simply can't cover it all.
What evidence do you have engines strong point are endgames?
07 Oct 05
Originally posted by UmalakasMaybe its just me, but I didn't get any of that. The distinguished lack of punctuation turned what might have been an intelligent statement, into what looks like html code. Maybe you should give up chess and start programming computers to have a better endgame.
Maybe it's just me, maybe by some miracle you are right and that's a coincidence. Personally I think the ending is the key to ever beat a computer, the computer knows the entire database of chess openings by heart (you will get outplayed here), and it's tactics are amazing in middle game play (you have to be so defensive and solid to survive this), most ...[text shortened]... bles simply can't cover it all.
What evidence do you have engines strong point are endgames?