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Originally posted by McDutchy
Agreed. Qf5 threatens mate and protects the vulnerable e5 square.
Qf6 is a nice moves, it keeps things about equal - but I still haven't seen a line to prove 1...fxg2 is a mistake.

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hahaha. this mind game requires more knowledge than I currently pocess.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
You gotta give me black's moves too.
1... Qf6 2. Nb5 gxf2 3. Qg3 Ng5

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Originally posted by mcreynolds
1... Qf6 2. Nb5 gxf2 3. Qg3 Ng5
I mean after 1...fxg2.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
I mean after 1...fxg2.
2 Qxe5+, if 2... Qf6 then 3 Ne8+wins the exchange.

if 2... Nf6 then 3. Qe7+ Kg8 4 Rg3 g5 5. Nf5 threatens mate and the queen.

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Originally posted by mcreynolds
2 Qxe5+, if 2... Qf6 then 3 Ne8+wins the exchange.

if 2... Nf6 then 3. Qe7+ Kg8 4 Rg3 g5 5. Nf5 threatens mate and the queen.
Pretty good, yep, that's a fairly solid solution. Here's the game with some variations added by myself. Qf6 is decent, but I think Qe7 is definitely better.

[Event "Rated game, 20m + 0s"]
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2007.06.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CMSMaster"]
[Black "Boru"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E90"]
[WhiteElo "1610"]
[BlackElo "1609"]
[PlyCount "69"]
[EventDate "2007.06.20"]
[TimeControl "1200"]

1. d4 {4} Nf6 {3} 2. c4 {2} d6 {3} 3. Nc3 {1} g6 {6} 4. e4 {1} Bg7 {3} 5. Nf3 {
2} Bg4 {2} 6. Be2 {3} Nbd7 {12} 7. O-O {7} e5 {2} 8. d5 {7} Nc5 {6} 9. h3 {7}
Bxf3 {8} 10. Bxf3 {2} O-O {0} 11. b4 {2} Ncd7 {16} 12. Be3 {2} b6 {2} 13. Qd2 {
2} c5 {3} 14. b5 {4} (14. dxc6 Nb8 15. b5) 14... a6 {47} 15. a4 {3} Ne8 {56}
16. Be2 {4} f5 {2} 17. Bh6 {19} f4 {11} 18. Bxg7 {2} Kxg7 {2} 19. Bg4 {6} Ndf6
{10} 20. Bf3 {18} h6 {26} 21. bxa6 {1} Rxa6 {3} 22. Nb5 {2} Nh7 {28} 23. Ra3 {
48} Ng5 {3} 24. Rfa1 {6} Nf6 {5} 25. Qe1 {51} Nxf3+ {10} 26. Rxf3 {10} Nh7 {17}
27. Rfa3 {9} Qh4 {13} 28. Nxd6 {42} f3 {2} 29. Qc3 {30} fxg2 {9} (29... Qe7 30.
Nb5 Ng5 31. Qd3 fxg2 32. Kxg2) (29... Qf6) 30. Qxe5+ {1} Nf6 {20} (30... Kg8
31. Qg3 Qxg3 32. fxg3 Ng5 33. Kxg2 Rd8 34. e5) (30... Qf6 31. Ne8+ Rxe8 32.
Qxe8 Ng5 33. e5) 31. Qe7+ {23} Kg8 {22} 32. Rg3 {24} g5 {19} 33. Nf5 {3} Rf7 {
40} 34. Qe6 {70} Nxe4 {55} 35. Nxh4 {Boru resigns (Lag: Av=0.55s, max=0.9s) 37
} 1-0

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1..fxg2 2. Qxe5+ looks winning for white. For instance:

2..Kg8 3. Qe6+ Kh8 4. Nf7+ looks strong for White. Black can't trade pieces because of the strong central pawns.

2..Nf6 and maybe 3. Rg3, threatening all kinds of silliness.

2..Qf6 is just stupid.

White looks winning, unless I am missing some silly crap somewhere. Oh

2..Rf6 allows the humorous 3. Ne8+, although maybe after Rxe8 Qxe8 Black has something that I missed, it all looks very strong for White though.

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!
1..fxg2 2. Qxe5+ looks winning for white. For instance:

2..Kg8 3. Qe6+ Kh8 4. Nf7+ looks strong for White. Black can't trade pieces because of the strong central pawns.

2..Nf6 and maybe 3. Rg3, threatening all kinds of silliness.

2..Qf6 is just stupid.

White looks winning, unless I am missing some silly crap somewhere. Oh

2..Rf6 allows the ...[text shortened]... e after Rxe8 Qxe8 Black has something that I missed, it all looks very strong for White though.
That's the best solution so far, and probably that you'll get - 3.Rg3 is better than my text move, too.

After Rf6 2.Ne8+ Kf7 3.Nxf6 Qxf6 white can either exchange queens now with a huge advantage or play 4.Qc7+ with what Fritz says is even more advantage.

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!

2..Qf6 is just stupid.
Exactly what ran through my mind in game. 🙂

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
That's the best solution so far, and probably that you'll get - 3.Rg3 is better than my text move, too.

After Rf6 2.Ne8+ Kf7 3.Nxf7 Qxf7 white can either exchange queens now with a huge advantage or play 4.Qc7+ with what Fritz says is even more advantage.
Black trades his king for a knight? 😲

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Originally posted by mcreynolds
Black trades his king for a knight? 😲
Huh, what are you talking about? Looks fine to me...

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I might have tried Ng5. ChessMaster liked Qg5.

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