Game 10: Kramnik-Topalov...

ckoh1965

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08 Oct 06

ckoh1965

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08 Oct 06

Originally posted by 7ate9
I don't know if it's that good cause the g2 bishop, and the defending pawn gets separated from the pack?

Yes, that's what I mean. You occupy d5 with a piece. Then support it with other pieces. No white pawns can attack d5, therefore the g2 bishop's range would be shortened. If white decides to trade away his g2 bishop, then he'll have light square weakness around his king.

Icky Ike

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08 Oct 06

Is Topalov in trouble here at move 19? He must have seen this coming...

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ilywrin

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08 Oct 06

Interesting game to be sure, though it would end in draw most likely.

schakuhr

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08 Oct 06

Originally posted by ckoh1965
Yes, that's what I mean. You occupy d5 with a piece. Then support it with other pieces. No white pawns can attack d5, therefore the g2 bishop's range would be shortened. If white decides to trade away his g2 bishop, then he'll have light square weakness around his king.

The light square weakness doesn't seem such a big deal, because Topalov positioned his light-squared bishop to trade it for Nb5. It doesn't seem like he's going to attack with it or something.

Icky Ike

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08 Oct 06

Originally posted by ilywrin
Interesting game to be sure, though it would end in draw most likely.

A draw would be great here for Topalov... but probably bad for chess. Anyone see this match coming down to the forfeit that was denied appeal???

David Tebb

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08 Oct 06

Position after 22..Qe8. Kramnik to move.

White still seems to have a slight advantage. I'm not sure whether Black can win his pawn back.

Icky Ike

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08 Oct 06

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Come on shoot me straight guys. Is Kramnik gonna pull through? I've got quite a bit of money riding on this game.

Money I can't really afford to pretend I have, if you catch my drift.

ilywrin

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08 Oct 06

Things don't look good for black. Kramnik threathens 24.Nd7! And Topalov is still thinking...Hm...

CrazyLilTing

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08 Oct 06

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Originally posted by ilywrin
Things don't look good for black. Kramnik threathens 24.Nd7! And Topalov is still thinking...Hm...

f6 seems a blunder!
A great one. btw

Bedlam

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08 Oct 06

f6 played 😲

schakuhr

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08 Oct 06

Yes, white can now win another pawn with Nd7! Rf7 Nxb6 Rxa7 Nxd5.

ilywrin

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08 Oct 06

Originally posted by schakuhr
Yes, white can now win another pawn with Nd7! Rf7 Nxb6 Rxa7 Nxd5.

Maybe what Topalov has in mind is: Nd7 Bxb5!? axb5 Rf7...It's getting really messy 😉

schakuhr

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08 Oct 06

Originally posted by ilywrin
Maybe what Topalov has in mind is: Nd7 Bxb5!? axb5 Rf7...It's getting really messy 😉

Doesn't it lead to the same? Nd7 Bxb5 axb5 Rf7 Nxb6 Rxa7 Nxd5. Exactly the same position, except for the exchange on b5, which makes no difference. It all leads to a won game for white.

David Tebb

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08 Oct 06

Originally posted by ilywrin
Maybe what Topalov has in mind is: Nd7 Bxb5!? axb5 Rf7...It's getting really messy 😉

That would still lose to 27.Nxb6 Rxa7 (or 27..Bxb6 28.Rxf7) 28.Nxd5.

White is going to be 2 pawns up for almost no compensation.