30 May 13
Originally posted by e4chrisI looked over this with a little help from a German friend.
the computer does not like ke8 for some reason both play kf8... maybe 11 Qh6 causes trouble? Also 12 ne5 looks better for white? keeps a threat on f7
"Vat does eet do?", he sniggered when I tried 12.e5 and he kicked it with ...d6. Indeed, after 13.Nf3 Rg4 14.Qh6 Bf8! I was in a whole world of pain.
Interestingly, he only likes ...Kf8 a small bit better than ...Ke8. He uncorked a novelty on move 9:
Indeed, after 10.g4 he informed me that he was headed back to e8 with the K now that he'd side-stepped the Qh5+ line. Even after the alternative 10.Nd3 he was able to cold-bloodedly defend.
01 Jun 13
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Originally posted by SwissGambitke8 looks fine now - i suspect the entire line is hopeless but if the computer plays kf8 its sharp - whites pawns cause trouble. To be honest i probably would not use it, but that reti trick i like as its harder to defend - this line theres a small number of search trees.
I looked over this with a little help from a German friend.
"Vat does eet do?", he sniggered when I tried 12.e5 and he kicked it with ...d6. Indeed, after 13.Nf3 Rg4 14.Qh6 Bf8! I was in a whole world of pain.
[pgn][Event "Blitz 4m+2s"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2013.05.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "SG"]
[Black "Deep Fritz 13"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "C51"]
e5 Bb7 12. Qh3 Bh4
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05 Jun 13
Originally posted by e4chrisYes, I believe black can keep the knight.
Here's some sharp defence against a knight sacrifice;
[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. Nb1c3 Ng8f6 4. Nf3xe5 Nc6xe5 5. d4 Ne5g6 6. e5 Nf6g8 7. Bf1c4 Bf8b4 8. Qd1f3 Bb4xc3 9. bxc3 Qd8e7 10. a4 Ng6xe5 11. dxe5 Qe7xe5 12. Qf3e2 Qe5xe2 13. Bc4xe2 Ng8e7 14. Bc1g5 Ne7d5 15. c4 Nd5b4 16. Be2d3 d6 17. O-O O-O 18. Rf1e1 Nb4xd3 19. cxd3 f6 20. Bg5d2 Kg8f7 21. Re1e3 ...[text shortened]... ut with it they're a pawn up whilst mine are wrecked, gg! 🙂 can you keep the knight though??
05 Jun 13
Originally posted by RJHindsI'm not sure, white is going to play 11 B-a3
Yes, I believe black can keep the knight.
[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. Nb1c3 Ng8f6 4. Nf3xe5 Nc6xe5 5. d4 Ne5g6 6. e5 Nf6g8 7. Bf1c4 Bf8b4 8. Qd1f3 Bb4xc3 9. bxc3 Qd8e7 {Here 10.O-O unpinning the e-pawn looks better because after...} 10. a4 f6 {attacking the pinned e-pawn looks good}
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I get some good victories on here with that line - even though its rubbish, there's a few good counters to it...
05 Jun 13
Originally posted by e4chris11. Ba3 doesn't look all that good, because 11.e6 blocks the bishop attack on the queen, opens up a line for Black's bishop, and renews the attack on White's pinned e-pawn.
I'm not sure, white is going to play 11 B-a3
I get some good victories on here with that line - even though its rubbish, there's a few good counters to it...
The Instructor
05 Jun 13
Originally posted by RJHinds11 ba3 , e6 12 0-0-0 and whites attack is still going and e6 is pinned....
11. Ba3 doesn't look all that good, because 11.e6 blocks the bishop attack on the queen, opens up a line for Black's bishop, and renews the attack on White's pinned e-pawn.
The Instructor