If Kasparov had played the Colle..

plopzilla

Only Chess

27 Sep 11

~~robbie carrobie~~

Joined: 26 Aug 07
Moves: 38239

28 Sep 11

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Karpov played the Colle regularly - ooooh, controversial, Nimzo doesnt want people to know 😛

awesome chess commentary,

nimzo5

Ronin

Hereford Boathouse

Joined: 08 Oct 09
Moves: 29575

28 Sep 11

I only found one Karpov colle game and that was in 2001?!?

~~robbie carrobie~~

Joined: 26 Aug 07
Moves: 38239

28 Sep 11

Originally posted by nimzo5
I only found one Karpov colle game and that was in 2001?!?

It was in his casual unpublished games i was talkin about. Plays it all the time . . .

nimzo5

Ronin

Hereford Boathouse

Joined: 08 Oct 09
Moves: 29575

29 Sep 11

So.....

would Karpov have beaten Fischer playing the Colle in 75?

ChessPraxis

Cowboy From Hell

American West

Joined: 19 Apr 10
Moves: 55013

29 Sep 11

Originally posted by nimzo5
So.....

would Karpov have beaten Fischer playing the Colle in 75?

Karpov playing the Colle against Fischer? Get outta here. lololol

Paul Leggett

Chess Librarian

The Stacks

Joined: 21 Aug 09
Moves: 114287

29 Sep 11

1

Originally posted by nimzo5
So.....

would Karpov have beaten Fischer playing the Colle in 75?

I would suggest (only half tongue-in-cheek) that Karpov would have played whatever Furman and Geller told him to play!

Karpov routinely gets Colle-like positions from the French Tarrasch, and he favors Colle-like white positions where black avoids ...d5. GMs master positions, and can plot an arrival into them from a variety of move orders. It is a dance:

Position after move 6:

8
a
7
b
6
c
5
d
4
e
3
f
2
g
1
h

1.	d4	b6
2.	e4	Bb7
3.	Nd2	e6
4.	c3	g6
5.	Bd3	Bg7
6.	Ngf3	Ne7
7.	Qe2	d6
8.	O-O	a6
9.	e5	Nd7
10.	Re1	d5
11.	Nf1	c5
12.	h3	Nc6
13.	N1h2	h6
14.	h4	b5
15.	Bf4	Qb6
16.	Qe3	c4
17.	Bc2	Ne7
18.	b4	cxb3
19.	axb3	b4
20.	cxb4	Nc6
21.	Rec1	Nxb4
22.	Bd1	a5
23.	Be2	Nb8
24.	Ng4	h5
25.	Nf6	Bxf6
26.	exf6	N4c6
27.	Rc5	Nd7
28.	Rxd5	Nxf6
29.	Rb5	Qa7
30.	Bd6	Ba6
31.	Qf4	Ng4
32.	Rc1	Qd7
33.	Rb6	Bxe2
34.	Rcxc6	Bxf3
35.	gxf3	e5
36.	Bxe5	f6
37.	Re6

0

Position after move 9:

8
a
7
b
6
c
5
d
4
e
3
f
2
g
1
h

1.	d4	b6
2.	e4	Bb7
3.	Nd2	e6
4.	c3	g6
5.	Bd3	Bg7
6.	Ngf3	Ne7
7.	Qe2	d6
8.	O-O	a6
9.	e5	Nd7
10.	Re1	d5
11.	Nf1	c5
12.	h3	Nc6
13.	N1h2	h6
14.	h4	b5
15.	Bf4	Qb6
16.	Qe3	c4
17.	Bc2	Ne7
18.	b4	cxb3
19.	axb3	b4
20.	cxb4	Nc6
21.	Rec1	Nxb4
22.	Bd1	a5
23.	Be2	Nb8
24.	Ng4	h5
25.	Nf6	Bxf6
26.	exf6	N4c6
27.	Rc5	Nd7
28.	Rxd5	Nxf6
29.	Rb5	Qa7
30.	Bd6	Ba6
31.	Qf4	Ng4
32.	Rc1	Qd7
33.	Rb6	Bxe2
34.	Rcxc6	Bxf3
35.	gxf3	e5
36.	Bxe5	f6
37.	Re6

0

Position after move 8:

8
a
7
b
6
c
5
d
4
e
3
f
2
g
1
h

1.	e4	e6
2.	d4	d5
3.	exd5	exd5
4.	c3	Bd6
5.	Bd3	c6
6.	Nf3	Ne7
7.	O-O	Bg4
8.	Nbd2	Qc8
9.	Re1	O-O
10.	Nf1	Ng6
11.	Ng3	Nd7
12.	h3	Bxf3
13.	Qxf3	Qc7
14.	Nf5	Rfe8
15.	Bg5	f6
16.	Nxd6	Qxd6
17.	Bd2	Ndf8
18.	Qg4	Qd7
19.	Bf5	Qd6
20.	h4	Ne7
21.	Bd3	f5
22.	Bxf5	Nxf5
23.	Qxf5	Qg6
24.	Qxg6	Nxg6
25.	g3	Kf7
26.	Kg2	h5
27.	Bg5	a5
28.	Kf3	a4
29.	g4	hxg4
30.	Kxg4	Nf8
31.	f4	Nh7
32.	Kf5	g6
33.	Kg4	Re4
34.	Kf3	Rae8
35.	Rxe4	Rxe4
36.	Rh1	Nxg5
37.	hxg5	Kg7
38.	b3	a3
39.	b4	b5
40.	Rb1	Re8
41.	Rb3	Ra8
42.	Kg4	Kf7
43.	f5	gxf5
44.	Kxf5	Kg7
45.	Ke5	Kg6
46.	Kd6

0

Position after move 9:

8
a
7
b
6
c
5
d
4
e
3
f
2
g
1
h

1.	Nf3	f5
2.	d4	Nf6
3.	Bg5	e6
4.	Nbd2	Be7
5.	Bxf6	Bxf6
6.	e4	O-O
7.	Bd3	g6
8.	Qe2	Bg7
9.	c3	Nc6
10.	O-O-O	d5
11.	e5	b6
12.	h4	h6
13.	Rdg1	Ne7
14.	g4	f4
15.	h5	g5
16.	Nxg5	hxg5
17.	h6	Bh8
18.	Nf3	c5
19.	Nxg5	cxd4
20.	Bh7

0

Position after move 6:

8
a
7
b
6
c
5
d
4
e
3
f
2
g
1
h

1.	d4	d6
2.	Nf3	g6
3.	e4	Bg7
4.	c3	Nf6
5.	Bd3	O-O
6.	O-O	Nc6
7.	Na3	Bg4
8.	h3	Bxf3
9.	Qxf3	e5
10.	Nc2	Qe8
11.	Re1	Nd7
12.	Be3	Ne7
13.	Rad1	Kh8
14.	dxe5	Nxe5
15.	Qe2	Qa4
16.	Nb4	Nxd3
17.	Qxd3	a5
18.	Nd5	Nxd5
19.	Qxd5	Qc6
20.	Bd4	Rae8
21.	Qxa5	Bxd4
22.	cxd4	Ra8
23.	Qb4	Rxa2
24.	Rc1	Qb6
25.	Qxb6	cxb6
26.	Re2	Kg8
27.	Rc7	Ra1
28.	Kh2	Rd1
29.	Rxb7

0

EVENT	FIDE GP
SITE	Dubai
DATE	2002.04.04
ROUND	2.2
WHITE	Karpov, Anatoly
BLACK	Zhu Chen
RESULT	1-0
WHITEELO	2693
BLACKELO	2505
ECO	B00
EVENTDATE	2002.04.03

EVENT	FIDE GP
SITE	Dubai
DATE	2002.04.04
ROUND	2.2
WHITE	Karpov, Anatoly
BLACK	Zhu Chen
RESULT	1-0
WHITEELO	2693
BLACKELO	2505
ECO	B00
EVENTDATE	2002.04.03

EVENT	Vladimir
SITE	Vladimir
DATE	1964.??.??
ROUND	?
WHITE	Karpov, Anatoly
BLACK	Petrov, Anton
RESULT	1-0
ECO	C01
EVENTDATE	1964.??.??

EVENT	Hoogovens Blitz
SITE	Wijk aan Zee
DATE	1998.01.19
ROUND	7
WHITE	Karpov, Anatoly
BLACK	Topalov, Veselin
RESULT	1-0
WHITEELO	2735
BLACKELO	2740
ECO	A80
EVENTDATE	1998.01.19

EVENT	FIDE GP+
SITE	Dubai
DATE	2002.04.08
ROUND	5.2
WHITE	Karpov, Anatoly
BLACK	Azmaiparashvili, Zurab
RESULT	1/2-1/2
WHITEELO	2693
BLACKELO	2676
ECO	B07
EVENTDATE	2002.04.03