Originally posted by nimzo5
So.....
would Karpov have beaten Fischer playing the Colle in 75?
I would suggest (only half tongue-in-cheek) that Karpov would have played whatever Furman and Geller told him to play!
Karpov routinely gets Colle-like positions from the French Tarrasch, and he favors Colle-like white positions where black avoids ...d5. GMs master positions, and can plot an arrival into them from a variety of move orders. It is a dance:
Position after move 6:
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1. | d4 | b6 |
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2. | e4 | Bb7 |
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3. | Nd2 | e6 |
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4. | c3 | g6 |
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5. | Bd3 | Bg7 |
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6. | Ngf3 | Ne7 |
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7. | Qe2 | d6 |
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8. | O-O | a6 |
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9. | e5 | Nd7 |
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10. | Re1 | d5 |
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11. | Nf1 | c5 |
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12. | h3 | Nc6 |
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13. | N1h2 | h6 |
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14. | h4 | b5 |
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15. | Bf4 | Qb6 |
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16. | Qe3 | c4 |
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17. | Bc2 | Ne7 |
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18. | b4 | cxb3 |
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19. | axb3 | b4 |
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20. | cxb4 | Nc6 |
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21. | Rec1 | Nxb4 |
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22. | Bd1 | a5 |
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23. | Be2 | Nb8 |
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24. | Ng4 | h5 |
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25. | Nf6 | Bxf6 |
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26. | exf6 | N4c6 |
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27. | Rc5 | Nd7 |
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28. | Rxd5 | Nxf6 |
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29. | Rb5 | Qa7 |
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30. | Bd6 | Ba6 |
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31. | Qf4 | Ng4 |
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32. | Rc1 | Qd7 |
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33. | Rb6 | Bxe2 |
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34. | Rcxc6 | Bxf3 |
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35. | gxf3 | e5 |
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36. | Bxe5 | f6 |
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37. | Re6 | |
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[Event "FIDE GP"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2002.04.04"]
[Round "2.2"]
[White "Karpov, Anatoly"]
[Black "Zhu Chen"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B00"]
[WhiteElo "2693"]
[BlackElo "2505"]
[PlyCount "73"]
[EventDate "2002.04.03"]
[EventType "k.o. (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2002.08.12"]
1. d4 b6 2. e4 Bb7 3. Nd2 e6 4. c3 g6 5. Bd3 Bg7 6. Ngf3 Ne7 7. Qe2 d6 8. O-O
a6 9. e5 Nd7 10. Re1 d5 11. Nf1 c5 12. h3 Nc6 13. N1h2 h6 14. h4 b5 15. Bf4 Qb6
16. Qe3 c4 17. Bc2 Ne7 18. b4 cxb3 19. axb3 b4 20. cxb4 Nc6 21. Rec1 Nxb4
22. Bd1 a5 23. Be2 Nb8 24. Ng4 h5 25. Nf6+ Bxf6 26. exf6 N4c6 27. Rc5 Nd7
28. Rxd5 Nxf6 29. Rb5 Qa7 30. Bd6 Ba6 31. Qf4 Ng4 32. Rc1 Qd7 33. Rb6 Bxe2 34. Rcxc6 Bxf3 35. gxf3 e5 36. Bxe5 f6 37. Re6+ 1-0
Position after move 9:
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- 3
- f
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1. | d4 | b6 |
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2. | e4 | Bb7 |
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3. | Nd2 | e6 |
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4. | c3 | g6 |
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5. | Bd3 | Bg7 |
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6. | Ngf3 | Ne7 |
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7. | Qe2 | d6 |
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8. | O-O | a6 |
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9. | e5 | Nd7 |
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10. | Re1 | d5 |
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11. | Nf1 | c5 |
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12. | h3 | Nc6 |
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13. | N1h2 | h6 |
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14. | h4 | b5 |
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15. | Bf4 | Qb6 |
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16. | Qe3 | c4 |
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17. | Bc2 | Ne7 |
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18. | b4 | cxb3 |
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19. | axb3 | b4 |
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20. | cxb4 | Nc6 |
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21. | Rec1 | Nxb4 |
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22. | Bd1 | a5 |
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23. | Be2 | Nb8 |
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24. | Ng4 | h5 |
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25. | Nf6 | Bxf6 |
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26. | exf6 | N4c6 |
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27. | Rc5 | Nd7 |
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28. | Rxd5 | Nxf6 |
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29. | Rb5 | Qa7 |
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30. | Bd6 | Ba6 |
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31. | Qf4 | Ng4 |
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32. | Rc1 | Qd7 |
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33. | Rb6 | Bxe2 |
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34. | Rcxc6 | Bxf3 |
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35. | gxf3 | e5 |
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36. | Bxe5 | f6 |
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37. | Re6 | |
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[Event "FIDE GP"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2002.04.04"]
[Round "2.2"]
[White "Karpov, Anatoly"]
[Black "Zhu Chen"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B00"]
[WhiteElo "2693"]
[BlackElo "2505"]
[PlyCount "73"]
[EventDate "2002.04.03"]
[EventType "k.o. (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2002.08.12"]
1. d4 b6 2. e4 Bb7 3. Nd2 e6 4. c3 g6 5. Bd3 Bg7 6. Ngf3 Ne7 7. Qe2 d6 8. O-O
a6 9. e5 Nd7 10. Re1 d5 11. Nf1 c5 12. h3 Nc6 13. N1h2 h6 14. h4 b5 15. Bf4 Qb6
16. Qe3 c4 17. Bc2 Ne7 18. b4 cxb3 19. axb3 b4 20. cxb4 Nc6 21. Rec1 Nxb4
22. Bd1 a5 23. Be2 Nb8 24. Ng4 h5 25. Nf6+ Bxf6 26. exf6 N4c6 27. Rc5 Nd7
28. Rxd5 Nxf6 29. Rb5 Qa7 30. Bd6 Ba6 31. Qf4 Ng4 32. Rc1 Qd7 33. Rb6 Bxe2 34. Rcxc6 Bxf3 35. gxf3 e5 36. Bxe5 f6 37. Re6+ 1-0
Position after move 8:
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- 7
- b
- 6
- c
- 5
- d
- 4
- e
- 3
- f
- 2
- g
- 1
- h

1. | e4 | e6 |
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2. | d4 | d5 |
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3. | exd5 | exd5 |
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4. | c3 | Bd6 |
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5. | Bd3 | c6 |
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6. | Nf3 | Ne7 |
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7. | O-O | Bg4 |
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8. | Nbd2 | Qc8 |
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9. | Re1 | O-O |
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10. | Nf1 | Ng6 |
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11. | Ng3 | Nd7 |
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12. | h3 | Bxf3 |
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13. | Qxf3 | Qc7 |
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14. | Nf5 | Rfe8 |
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15. | Bg5 | f6 |
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16. | Nxd6 | Qxd6 |
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17. | Bd2 | Ndf8 |
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18. | Qg4 | Qd7 |
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19. | Bf5 | Qd6 |
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20. | h4 | Ne7 |
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21. | Bd3 | f5 |
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22. | Bxf5 | Nxf5 |
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23. | Qxf5 | Qg6 |
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24. | Qxg6 | Nxg6 |
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25. | g3 | Kf7 |
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26. | Kg2 | h5 |
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27. | Bg5 | a5 |
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28. | Kf3 | a4 |
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29. | g4 | hxg4 |
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30. | Kxg4 | Nf8 |
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31. | f4 | Nh7 |
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32. | Kf5 | g6 |
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33. | Kg4 | Re4 |
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34. | Kf3 | Rae8 |
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35. | Rxe4 | Rxe4 |
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36. | Rh1 | Nxg5 |
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37. | hxg5 | Kg7 |
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38. | b3 | a3 |
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39. | b4 | b5 |
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40. | Rb1 | Re8 |
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41. | Rb3 | Ra8 |
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42. | Kg4 | Kf7 |
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43. | f5 | gxf5 |
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44. | Kxf5 | Kg7 |
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45. | Ke5 | Kg6 |
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46. | Kd6 | |
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[Event "Vladimir"]
[Site "Vladimir"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Karpov, Anatoly"]
[Black "Petrov, Anton"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C01"]
[PlyCount "91"]
[EventDate "1964.??.??"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "URS"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2001.11.25"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. c3 Bd6 5. Bd3 c6 6. Nf3 Ne7 7. O-O Bg4
8. Nbd2 Qc8 9. Re1 O-O 10. Nf1 Ng6 11. Ng3 Nd7 12. h3 Bxf3 13. Qxf3 Qc7 14. Nf5
Rfe8 15. Bg5 f6 16. Nxd6 Qxd6 17. Bd2 Ndf8 18. Qg4 Qd7 19. Bf5 Qd6 20. h4 Ne7
21. Bd3 f5 22. Bxf5 Nxf5 23. Qxf5 Qg6 24. Qxg6 Nxg6 25. g3 Kf7 26. Kg2 h5
27. Bg5 a5 28. Kf3 a4 29. g4 hxg4+ 30. Kxg4 Nf8 31. f4 Nh7 32. Kf5 g6+ 33. Kg4 Re4 34. Kf3 Rae8 35. Rxe4 Rxe4 36. Rh1 Nxg5+ 37. hxg5 Kg7 38. b3 a3 39. b4 b5 40. Rb1 Re8 41. Rb3 Ra8 42. Kg4 Kf7 43. f5 gxf5+ 44. Kxf5 Kg7 45. Ke5 Kg6
46. Kd6 1-0
Position after move 9:
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- a
- 7
- b
- 6
- c
- 5
- d
- 4
- e
- 3
- f
- 2
- g
- 1
- h

1. | Nf3 | f5 |
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2. | d4 | Nf6 |
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3. | Bg5 | e6 |
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4. | Nbd2 | Be7 |
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5. | Bxf6 | Bxf6 |
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6. | e4 | O-O |
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7. | Bd3 | g6 |
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8. | Qe2 | Bg7 |
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9. | c3 | Nc6 |
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10. | O-O-O | d5 |
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11. | e5 | b6 |
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12. | h4 | h6 |
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13. | Rdg1 | Ne7 |
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14. | g4 | f4 |
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15. | h5 | g5 |
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16. | Nxg5 | hxg5 |
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17. | h6 | Bh8 |
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18. | Nf3 | c5 |
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19. | Nxg5 | cxd4 |
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20. | Bh7 | |
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[Event "Hoogovens Blitz"]
[Site "Wijk aan Zee"]
[Date "1998.01.19"]
[Round "7"]
[White "Karpov, Anatoly"]
[Black "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A80"]
[WhiteElo "2735"]
[BlackElo "2740"]
[PlyCount "39"]
[EventDate "1998.01.19"]
[EventType "tourn (blitz)"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "NED"]
[EventCategory "17"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1998.03.09"]
1. Nf3 f5 2. d4 Nf6 3. Bg5 e6 4. Nbd2 Be7 5. Bxf6 Bxf6 6. e4 O-O 7. Bd3 g6
8. Qe2 Bg7 9. c3 Nc6 10. O-O-O d5 11. e5 b6 12. h4 h6 13. Rdg1 Ne7 14. g4 f4
15. h5 g5 16. Nxg5 hxg5 17. h6 Bh8 18. Nf3 c5 19. Nxg5 cxd4 20. Bh7# 1-0
Position after move 6:
- 8
- a
- 7
- b
- 6
- c
- 5
- d
- 4
- e
- 3
- f
- 2
- g
- 1
- h

1. | d4 | d6 |
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2. | Nf3 | g6 |
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3. | e4 | Bg7 |
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4. | c3 | Nf6 |
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5. | Bd3 | O-O |
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6. | O-O | Nc6 |
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7. | Na3 | Bg4 |
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8. | h3 | Bxf3 |
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9. | Qxf3 | e5 |
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10. | Nc2 | Qe8 |
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11. | Re1 | Nd7 |
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12. | Be3 | Ne7 |
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13. | Rad1 | Kh8 |
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14. | dxe5 | Nxe5 |
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15. | Qe2 | Qa4 |
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16. | Nb4 | Nxd3 |
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17. | Qxd3 | a5 |
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18. | Nd5 | Nxd5 |
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19. | Qxd5 | Qc6 |
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20. | Bd4 | Rae8 |
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21. | Qxa5 | Bxd4 |
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22. | cxd4 | Ra8 |
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23. | Qb4 | Rxa2 |
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24. | Rc1 | Qb6 |
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25. | Qxb6 | cxb6 |
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26. | Re2 | Kg8 |
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27. | Rc7 | Ra1 |
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28. | Kh2 | Rd1 |
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29. | Rxb7 | |
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[Event "FIDE GP+"]
[Site "Dubai"]
[Date "2002.04.08"]
[Round "5.2"]
[White "Karpov, Anatoly"]
[Black "Azmaiparashvili, Zurab"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B07"]
[WhiteElo "2693"]
[BlackElo "2676"]
[PlyCount "57"]
[EventDate "2002.04.03"]
[EventType "k.o. (rapid)"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "UAE"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2002.08.12"]
1. d4 d6 2. Nf3 g6 3. e4 Bg7 4. c3 Nf6 5. Bd3 O-O 6. O-O Nc6 7. Na3 Bg4 8. h3
Bxf3 9. Qxf3 e5 10. Nc2 Qe8 11. Re1 Nd7 12. Be3 Ne7 13. Rad1 Kh8 14. dxe5 Nxe5
15. Qe2 Qa4 16. Nb4 Nxd3 17. Qxd3 a5 18. Nd5 Nxd5 19. Qxd5 Qc6 20. Bd4 Rae8 21. Qxa5 Bxd4 22. cxd4 Ra8 23. Qb4 Rxa2 24. Rc1 Qb6 25. Qxb6 cxb6 26. Re2 Kg8 27. Rc7 Ra1+ 28. Kh2 Rd1 29. Rxb7 1/2-1/2