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Kasparov vs. Fischer - Who would win?

Kasparov vs. Fischer - Who would win?

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Originally posted by Shinidoki
Hey guys! - If I started learning chess by age 2 instead of 16 do you think i would have kicked kaspa's arse??
No idea, but considering there are a lot of chess players that started at the age of 2 which aren't as good as Kasparov, I would say the odds are you wouldn't be able to beat him. As well as years of experience (which, of course, would still make you very good), it requires a remarkable memory and natural ability as well.

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Kramnik beat Kasparov. So, I think Fischer would have a good chance of beating him as well. Fischer's opening was always predictable, but his imagination was amazing.

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Any player within 25 points of another player will have about even chances to beat that player? Kasparov 2874. Fischer 2867. Capablanca 2857. Lasker 2855. Botvinnik 2852. These are the performance rateings of the top five players best year as Jeff Sonas has rated them. Surely these players are about even. The main thing would be how their playing styles matched against each other. The real question should be could Fischer's aggressive positional style beat Team Kasparov's dynamic sacrificial positionl style? Surely we can say that these players could take the pressures of championship match play. All we can be sure of is that these players were awesome talents. Botvinnik did play and beat Capablanca in a game. At that time Botvinnik was about 14 years of age. I do not know if the game was played after Capablanca had that stroke.

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Originally posted by gambit3
Any player within 25 points of another player will have about even chances to beat that player? Kasparov 2874. Fischer 2867. Capablanca 2857. Lasker 2855. Botvinnik 2852. These are the performance rateings of the top five players best year as Jeff Sonas has rated them. Surely these players are about even. The main thing would be how their playing sty ...[text shortened]... about 14 years of age. I do not know if the game was played after Capablanca had that stroke.
Exactly.

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Even I could win over Kasparov or Fischer.
It's all about probability and the probability for me is above 0.000% to beat him, not much but anyway...

The discussion of who wins over who in one game Kasparov vs Fischer is uninteresting.
It's all about probability.

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From "Bobby Fischer Rediscovered" by Andy Soltis:

"Here is where the dog is buried as the Russians say. Botvinnik's notes claimed White draws even after 51 ... Kd4 52 Rxg6 b5 53 h5 b4 54 h6 b3 55 Rg4+! Kc5 56 Rg5+ Kb4 57 Rg4+ Ka3 58 Rh4! b2 59 h7 b1(Q) 60 h8(Q).

Fischer disputed that with his longest note in all of My 60 Memorable Games. He said 56 ... Kb4 was an error because White could draw immediately with 57 Rg7. Instead he recommended 56 ... Kc6! 57 Rg6+ Kb7! 58 Rg7+ Ka6! 59 Rg6+ Ka5 60 Rg5+ Ka4 61 Rg4+ Ka3 62 Rh4 b2 63 h7 b1(Q) 64 h8 (Q) -reaching the same position as Botvinnik after his 60 b8(Q).

Fischer then claimed a win for Black with 64 ... Qb3+ 65 Ke2 Qd1+ 66 e3 Rb1.

But Botvinnik eventually shot back in two ways. First he pointed out White is drawing after 67 Qf8+ Ka2 68 Qc5!.

Moreover, Botvinnik said that one of his students, a youngster from Baku named Garik Kasparov had found a second draw - 67 Rc4 Rb3+ 68 Rc3! Despite many checks. Black cannot make progress (68 ...Qe1+ 69 Kd3 Qf1+ 70 Kd2 Qxf2+ 71 Kd3). Botvinnik hinted that his opponent had been out-analysed by a 13 year old schoolboy. Fischer never replied - and this is almost certainly the closest we will ever get to a Fischer-Kasparov match."


Found in the comments to the Botvinnik - Fischer 1962 game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008417&kpage=1

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