17 Jun 07
Originally posted by SquelchbelchK & N vs K cannot be won by any rules of chess, even on time in a blitz game as to win on time you must have mating material which is defined as the ability to win the game by any sequence of moves even against the most inept counterplay. K & N vs K can never achieve this.
N & K vs K [b]can be won.
I read it's called [/i]win by longevity[/i] or something.[/b]
If nothing else applies then 3 fold repetition odr the 50 move rule will both do the trick. I would head for a corner to force the repetition if thats what it takes to end the game (as a draw).
18 Jun 07
Originally posted by SchopenhauerWith 2Ns if the opponent does not make a mistake it is impossible.
and even with two knights, being a specialist, if the opponent does not make any mistake...very difficult..
... but K & 2Ns vs K & P is, in certain circumstances, a win for the 2Ns but exceedingly difficult and generally not possible in less than 50 moves.
18 Jun 07
Originally posted by Sam The ShamIt can't be won by the other side (moron or otherwise) helping you mate, because mate is not possible. The other side would have to be such a big moron that he/she resigned.
It can only be won if the opponent helps the other side mate by being a moron. It cannot be forced. It's called a win by being a moron.
18 Jun 07
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Originally posted by Sam The ShamSam, stick to your guns. You're right, and C J Horse is wrong. It only takes a minute to Google it.
You're right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_knights_endgame
Edit - Oops, sorry, I didn't notice that we're alternating between single knight discussions and double knight discussions. So for one knight, C J Horse IS correct. (Sorry for the snafu, Horsey :-)
18 Jun 07
Originally posted by C J HorseIt can be won if black is a moron in the following position
It can't be won by the other side (moron or otherwise) helping you mate, because mate is not possible. The other side would have to be such a big moron that he/she resigned.
White plays Nf7 mate.
Black is a moron because his last move had to be Kh8 but he could have played Kf8 avoiding the mate.