Originally posted by @greenpawn34I am the same way!
Botvinnik was also odd (all chess players are odd.)
Geller relates that he once paid Botvinnik a visit and brought with him some cake.
Botvinnik let his Wife and daughter eat it first and waited 2-3 hours
to make sure it was OK before eating some himself.
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Originally posted by @nevareWhere does it say Carlsen gets an automatic rematch if he loses?
Automatic rematches? The vanquished King gets a rematch by rights you ignorant ass. Try to think what they go through. They are the best and then lose? I can't even begin to imagine what they go through.
Originally posted by @buzz-meeksI assumed that was the way. It feels right to me that is a world champion loses he should get a rematch. So basically you have to win two matches to prove you are the best.
Where does it say Carlsen gets an automatic rematch if he loses?
Originally posted by @buzz-meeksLmao touché you got me.
Well then, thanks for clearing that up for my "ignorant ass".
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Originally posted by @nevareSpeaking from experience: Alcohol and texting/posting rarely mix well.
Lmao touché you got me.
Other than that...this is a great discussion.
I've not been familiar with Botvinnik's biography or games, but now I'm interested. Thanks.
Originally posted by @nevareI respect the opinion but disagree with it. To me, the idea of the loser getting a rematch is like getting a free pass for … losing. It's almost like a free touch move or a "take back".
I assumed that was the way. It feels right to me that is a world champion loses he should get a rematch. So basically you have to win two matches to prove you are the best.
If you want to stay as "the King", then don't lose the first match.
Originally posted by @lemondropIf Fischer was the best ever he would have played Karpov in 1992 and not a weakened Spassky. As far as world champions go... Spassky is considered as one of the weakest so Fischer had it easy in 1972. Just ask greenpawn lol
I'll be the Fischer fan
seems that all world champions, except Fischer, had one or more rivals of equal strength
Fischer towered above all others of his day
he has my vote as the best ever
Originally posted by @nevareyou are talking about a match 20 years after he won the title
If Fischer was the best ever he would have played Karpov in 1992 and not a weakened Spassky. As far as world champions go... Spassky is considered as one of the weakest so Fischer had it easy in 1972. Just ask greenpawn lol
I'm saying that at the time of his prime he was unbeatable
no other champion was as dominate over a two year span save Morphy who may have been his equal as far as dominating the opposition
"If Fischer was the best ever he would have played Karpov in 1992 and not a weakened Spassky."
Karpov had other chess commitments in '92. One of which was his semi-final match v Short.
Although Spassky was no longer the great player he was in 1992 he was still
active.This was Fischer's first game for 20 years, at 48 he no longer in his prime.
Yes Fischer dominated 1970-72 but other Champions had their golden moments.
Alekhine at San Remo 1930 won it 3½ points clear of 2nd place.
and Bled 1931 where he finished 5½ points ahead of 2nd place.
Karpov after being awarded the title in 1975 went on an incredible run
of tournaments victories, eventually setting a tournament record
of 9 victories in a row and during this time twice defended his title.
Kasparov when he took over the title from Karpov then won practically every
tournament he entered including breaking Karpov's tournament record with 14
tournament wins in a row.. Kasparov successful defended his title on 5 occasions.
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Originally posted by @greenpawn34Until Magnus came along, I'd always regarded Garry as the greatest Champion ever. My reason is undoubtedly simplistic: His success against an increased level of competition in this technologically aided, modern time.
"If Fischer was the best ever he would have played Karpov in 1992 and not a weakened Spassky."
Karpov had other chess commitments in '92. One of which was his semi-final match v Short.
Although Spassky was no longer the great player he was in 1992 he was still
active.This was Fischer's first game for 20 years, at 48 he no longer in his prime.
...[text shortened]... cord with 14
tournament wins in a row.. Kasparov successful defended his title on 5 occasions.
However, if the question was: "Who is the greatest natural born chess prodigy in history?"
Capablanca...of course. 🙂
Fischer worked very hard to be the best.
Morphy didn't work hard enough.
Just my humble patzer's opinion.