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Lack of Good Manners on RHP

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greenpawn34

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OK SG I'll bite.

Just to give you the pleasure of proving me wrong and
perhap pull some others into this problem before it gets buried.


The last move was Ke8-d8

I want a full explanation as to why it's wrong. (clues boys, suck clues out of him.)
(has it something to do with Black's b6 pawn?)

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You or anyone else has yet to prove that Greenpawn is right and I am wrong. Where is the reference. Is there one on the internet that you can point to and quote for me that deals with time controls and who wins if the flag falls or in these days of digital clocks the expiration sound goes off?

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
OK SG I'll bite.

Just to give you the pleasure of proving me wrong and
perhap pull some others into this problem before it gets buried.

[fen]Bb1k1b2/bKp1p1p1/1pP1P1P1/1P6/p5P1/P7/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
The last move was Ke8-d8

I want a full explanation as to why it's wrong. (clues boys, suck clues out of him.)
(has it something to do with Black's b6 pawn?)
This problem is based on the concept of a 'dead' position - one in which no checkmate is possible. It also relies on the wording of the rule - the position is immediately drawn once no checkmate is possible. No further moves are allowed.

So, first question is - is the diagram position 'dead' or 'alive'? Is it possible to checkmate a King if both sides cooperate?

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RJHinds
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The post that was quoted here has been removed
You stated, "As far as I know, RJHinds's claim that in a USCF-rated event, if a player with a king and a queen ran out of time against a player with only a king, then the player with only the king would be awarded the win is *false*. "

That is not what I said. It is true that the person with only the King would be awarded the win if the other person ran out of time. But Greenpawn is saying it would be a draw not a win.

greenpawn34

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SG do a new thread with this problem it's going to get lost on here.

I'll copy and paste my answer you can then paste in your reply.

It's good but RJ is just clouding it up with his I'm a daftie wind up's.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
SG do a new thread with this problem it's going to get lost on here.

I'll copy and paste my answer you can then paste in your reply.

It's good but RJ is just clouding it up with his I'm a daftie wind up's.
OK, it's in Thread 148359.

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And I am an experienced OTB player, and GP is correct 🙂 End of.

greenpawn34

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Trying to give RJ a loophole.

When did the ruling come in? He says he started 30 years ago and
the rules do differ slightly in the USA.

I've never played in the USA.
It may have become law there just in past 5-10-15 years.

Anybody?

One wee thing that RJ said caught me.

"...if the flag falls or in these days of digital clocks the expiration sound goes off?"

In the UK the player has to notice his opponents time has run out, there
is no 'beep'. It is switched off prior to the game.

Is it different in the USA. (I know they have to supply their own kit.)

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Well, there's this:

A. Buchanan
StrateGems 2002
[fen]Bb1k1b2/bKp1p1p1/1pP1P1P1/1P6/p5P1/P7/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
White to move. What was the last move?
Are we sure the position is legal? How did that bishop get on a8?


Edit: The obvious answer is promotion but where did and how was the pawn promoted?

greenpawn34

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Hi tom tom - new thread started. - Thread 148359

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Originally posted by Aldan
I deem it very bad manners and insulting for a player who has an obviously lost position to play on in the forlorn hope that his adversary will commit a childish blunder. RHP appears to approve and institutionalize these bad manners in the posted diagrams of checkmates appearing on the home page as almost all of these diagrammed checkmates involve games wit ...[text shortened]... as to indicate that the games had been lost many moves before the checkmate. What to you think?
Back to the OP subject ...

Thread 147458

Seems there is a never-ending supply of bad-losers ...

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I've seen a win awarded on time to a player who only had a king, rook pawn and wrong colour bishop with the defending king covering the queening square.

I didn't agree with the decision BTW as the winner was making no progress but the arbiters decision is final.

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