[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.11.07"]
[EndDate "2008.11.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "qvillin"]
[Black "stockton1984"]
[WhiteRating "1476"]
[BlackRating "1272"]
[WhiteELO "1476"]
[BlackELO "1272"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "5627743"]
1. e4 e5 2. Ng1f3 f5 3. Nf3xe5 Qd8f6 4. Ne5c4 fxe4 5. Nc4e3 Qf6d4
6. Bf1c4 Ng8f6 7. O-O d5 8. c3 Qd4c5 9. Qd1a4 Bc8d7 10. Qa4b3 dxc4
11. Ne3xc4 Qc5b5 12. Nc4e3 Qb5xb3 13. axb3 Bf8d6 14. Ne3c4 Bd6e7 15. Rf1e1 O-O
16. Nc4e5 Be7d6 17. Ne5xd7 Nb8xd7 18. d4 Nf6g4 19. Re1xe4 Ng4xf2 20. Re4e2 Nf2g4
21. h3 Bd6h2 22. Kg1h1 Rf8f1 0-1
Finally a decent result with the latvian! lol
Originally posted by tomtom232actually from what i can discern with sqelchbelch it more a form of idolatry, hero worship, call it what you will, it may of course be worthy of some comments on the spirituality forum!
just because he is a fide master means nothing except that he is good at chess. He is just a person like you or me.
Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromficsditto ditto ditto ditto ditto ditto
I don't really have anything constructive to add to the thread.
I was/am enjoying the debate (with actual variations).
Thanks a lot guys (Korch/Northern Lad).
I can see all the effort and truly appreciate it.
Most people have to pay money and buy the book to get what you guys are giving here.
Handshake
I wasted a lot of time reading the first few posts to this forum, and then I skipped to the end. I felt that I had to respond to what was being said.
When players claim that the Latvian is refuted, etc. it is simply not true. So long as the Black player has ingenuity and is a risk-taker, there is no limit to what is possible. Recently I have been analysing and creating my own new theory--what every gambiteer should do! And here is a nice win in the Latvian...
1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 f5 3.Nf3 fxe4 4.Nxe5 Nf6 5.Nf7 Qe7 6.Nxh8 d5 7.Bb5+ c6 8.Ba4 Bg4 9.f3 exf3+ 10.Kf2 Ne4+
11.Ke3 Qg5+ 12.Kd3 Nf2+ 13.Kd4 Qf4+ 14.Kc3 Qb4# 0-1
Greco
You just really want to read the posts of Korch and Northern Lad
in this thread.
(no disrespect to other posters intended).
Two good OTB players with some very good analysis and thoughts
on this opening
I despair everytime I see The Latvian mentioned.
It's meant to be a surprise weapon. Posters alert the Whites that this
opening has teeth and may not be as bad as the opening books suggest.
And now you have 'bumped' this one back into the spotlight.....😳
Originally posted by JonathanB of LondonYes, I was trying to emphasise my point. Frankly, I was being childish.
Oh ok.
I think I misunderstood your post. That stuff in bold saying that you've had articles published in new in chess comes under your bit not the bit where you quote NL - but I see what you mean now.
Originally posted by greenpawn34That's the thing, though... A little knowledge is dangerous! Most of the times when White plays a 'book' line you can take them off that at a point when they aren't expecting. You hit them with a surprise. There's still many lines that are goodfor black that aren't here. 3. ...Kt-QB3, for instance, is actually sound and a lot of fun for Black!
You just really want to read the posts of Korch and Northern Lad
in this thread.
(no disrespect to other posters intended).
Two good OTB players with some very good analysis and thoughts
on this opening
I despair everytime I see The Latvian mentioned.
It's meant to be a surprise weapon. Posters alert the Whites that this
opening has teeth ...[text shortened]... e opening books suggest.
And now you have 'bumped' this one back into the spotlight.....😳
Greco
Originally posted by Northern LadYeah, but who actually plays the Bronstein Variation anymore?
Yes, but white still has a considerable advantage after 10.Nc3. I think after 6.Be2, 6...Qd8 is black's only playable line. After 7.d5 Nf6 8.Nc3 Be7 9.Bh5+ g6 10.Be2 I think white has a definite and significant edge (even if black's position is not completely unplayable), whereas you think it's only a slight edge for white. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one and leave it for others to decide.
If, say, the Nimzowitsch Variation is in fact a refutation, then it matters not, since it's not a move that anyone plays anymore! Furthermore, I'm not convinced at all that 3. ...Kt-QB3 (Nc6)!? is refuted. If White checks with the queen, he better be ready for a dogfight, and if he plays 4. P-Q4 (d4), Watson's 'Refutation', then 4. ...Q-B3 (Qf6)!! gives Black plenty of play. 4. KtxKt (Nxc6) is exactly what Black wants.
The real move that Black must know is ...B-K3 (Be6)!! followed by queenside castling in the Leonhardt Variation.
Greco