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16 Jan 13
17 Jan 13
Originally posted by greenpawn34
Hi Mike.
But Black is still on the a1 Rook.
[pgn]
[FEN "2rq1rk1/6p1/p7/1p4bP/3pQ1p1/1P1P2P1/P3PP1N/R3K2R b KQ - 0 22"]
22... Bd2+ (22... Qd5) 23. Kxd2 Qa5+ 24. Kd1 Qc3 25. Qd5+ Kh8 26. Qg5 Qxa1+ 27. Kd2 Qc3+ 28. Kd1 Qc2+ 29. Ke1 Qc1+ 30. Qxc1 Rxc1+ 31. Kd2 Rxh1 {Is just one way to wrap it up.}[/pgn]
In the original game the same idea is also f ...[text shortened]... + 8. Kf1 {8.Ke1 Qg1+ and the Queen mates on c1.}8...Rc1+ 9. Qxc1 Qh1+ 10. Kf2 Qxc1 *
[/pgn]
17 Jan 13
Originally posted by RJHinds6...QxR
[pgn]
[FEN "2rq1rk1/6p1/p7/1p4bP/3pQ1p1/1P1P2P1/P3PP1N/R3K2R b KQ - 0 22"]
22... Bd2+ 23. Kxd2 Qa5+ 24. Kd1 Qc3 25. Qd5+ Kh8 26. Qg5 Qxa1+ 27. Kd2 Qc3+ 28. Kd1 Qc2+ 29. Ke1 Qb1+ {instead of 29.Qc1+} 30. Kd2 Rc2# {if 30. Qc1 Qxc1# Is a quicker way to wrap it up.}[/pgn]
17 Jan 13
Originally posted by greenpawn34Of course! I'm prone to missing that OTB all too often!!
Hi Mike.
But Black is still on the a1 Rook.
[pgn]
[FEN "2rq1rk1/6p1/p7/1p4bP/3pQ1p1/1P1P2P1/P3PP1N/R3K2R b KQ - 0 22"]
22... Bd2+ (22... Qd5) 23. Kxd2 Qa5+ 24. Kd1 Qc3 25. Qd5+ Kh8 26. Qg5 Qxa1+ 27. Kd2 Qc3+ 28. Kd1 Qc2+ 29. Ke1 Qc1+ 30. Qxc1 Rxc1+ 31. Kd2 Rxh1 {Is just one way to wrap it up.}[/pgn]
In the original game the same idea is also f ...[text shortened]... + 8. Kf1 {8.Ke1 Qg1+ and the Queen mates on c1.}8...Rc1+ 9. Qxc1 Qh1+ 10. Kf2 Qxc1 *
[/pgn]
Mike
Originally posted by greenpawn34A human would normally just resign. However, the purpose of my previous post was to show the shortest move to a forced checkmate. Then ChessPaxis had to chime in with 6...QxR (Qxh1), which is not a shorter way to checkmate even though it may have ended the game quicker. Of course, the computer is likely to play the best move that prolongs the game, but in this case, there are only two choices that I see. So what would a human like you play?
RJ that ridiculous 6...Qxg7+ is a computer move.
It's what these things do to avoid getting mated one move quicker,
a human would never even consider it.
Join in by all means but leave the box out of it.
P.S. By the way, the move is for white and would really be 7.Qxg7+ and not 6...Qxg7+ as appears on the pgn. I suppose you would give up your knight first and then your queen from what you say in order not to prolong the mate, right? Maybe you would just make some other dumb move and get checkmated immediately like a stupid Brit.
Originally posted by ChessPraxisTell greenpawn34 about it. He did not snap it up, but played Qc3+ in an attempt to get a forced checkmate, I believe, but did not see it. I was just improving on his idea.
All I know is, any player that can see QxR and doesn't snap up the rook without a second thought needs a bitch slap.
Nuff said
20 Jan 13
Originally posted by RJHindsWrong again Honey.
Tell greenpawn34 about it. He did not snap it up, but played Qc3+ in an attempt to get a forced checkmate, I believe, but did not see it. I was just improving on his idea.
If you read the post I was showing Mike that the a1 Rook was hanging after his
Qg5 idea. so showed him that line and used his Qg5 move to trade down into
a simple win.
My final note.
"Is just one way to wrap it up."
Indicating you could win this in various ways. I was trying to be instructive.
"...in an attempt to get a forced checkmate, I believe, but did not see it."
Please don't try with the aid of your computer to figure out what I am doing,
you really don't have a clue and neither does your computer.
I don't give a toss about you using your computer in your games, but keep
the thing out of the forum. Using it to pass yourself of as good chess player
is a gross insult to all the good players that do (and used to...you have trolled them off) post on here.