24 Apr 07
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Originally posted by YUG0slavThis line have been used by Leko, Svidler, Polgar, Adams, Ivanchuk etc. GMs
lemme guess, mostly blitz?
Here is one sound example:
[Event "RUS-The World"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "2002.09.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Ivanchuk,Vassily"]
[Black "Kasparov,Garry"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B90"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1 g6 7.g4 Bg7 8.Be3 Nc6
9.f3 e5 10.Nxc6 bxc6 11.Qd2 Be6 12.0-0-0 Bf8 13.Na4 h5 14.h3 Nd7 15.Qc3 hxg4 16.hxg4 d5
17.Qxc6 d4 18.Bd2 Rc8 19.Qb7 Rb8 20.Qxa6 Ra8 21.Qb5 Bxa2 22.Bc4 Bxc4 23.Qxc4 Qf6 24.g5 Qd6
25.Kb1 Rh3 26.Rgf1 Be7 27.b3 Qa3 28.Bc1 Qb4 29.Qxb4 Bxb4 30.f4 Rh4 31.Rh1 Rxh1 32.Rxh1 Ke7
33.f5 Ra6 34.Rh7 Nc5 35.Bd2 Rxa4 36.fxg6 Bxd2 37.Rxf7+ Ke6 38.Rf6+ Ke7 39.bxa4 Nxe4 40.Rf5
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24 Apr 07
Originally posted by KorchI think he meant the games I've played in it, lots of GMs have used it though.
According to chessbase these GM games are not blitz or even rapid.
According to chessbase this line have been played by Leko, Svidler, Polgar, Adams, Ivanchuk etc. GMs
Here is one sound example:
[Event "RUS-The World"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "2002.09.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Ivanchuk,Vassily"]
[Black "Kasparov,Garry"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B90"] ...[text shortened]... Nc5 35.Bd2 Rxa4 36.fxg6 Bxd2 37.Rxf7+ Ke6 38.Rf6+ Ke7 39.bxa4 Nxe4 40.Rf5
1-0
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by KorchIt does seem to catch a lot of good players off guard,
This line have been used by Leko, Svidler, Polgar, Adams, Ivanchuk etc. GMs
Here is one sound example:
[Event "RUS-The World"]
[Site "Moscow"]
[Date "2002.09.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Ivanchuk,Vassily"]
[Black "Kasparov,Garry"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B90"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Rg1 g6 7.g4 Bg7 8.Be3 Nc6
9.f3 e5 10.Nxc6 b ...[text shortened]... Nc5 35.Bd2 Rxa4 36.fxg6 Bxd2 37.Rxf7+ Ke6 38.Rf6+ Ke7 39.bxa4 Nxe4 40.Rf5
1-0
[Event "Rated game, 25m + 0s"]
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2006.11.15"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CMSMaster"]
[Black "Looser1"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B90"]
[WhiteElo "1605"]
[BlackElo "1772"]
[PlyCount "29"]
[EventDate "2006.12.30"]
[TimeControl "1500"]
1. e4 {4} c5 {2} 2. Nf3 {2} d6 {1} 3. d4 {1} cxd4 {1} 4. Nxd4 {0} Nf6 {2} 5.
Nc3 {1} a6 {1} 6. Rg1 {CMSMaster claims win on disconnect 1} Nc6 {105} 7. Be3 {
41} e6 {13} 8. g4 {3} Be7 {126} 9. Qd2 {57} b5 {64} (9... Ne5) 10. g5 {24} Nxd4
{74} 11. Bxd4 {26} b4 {57} 12. gxf6 {19} bxc3 {3} 13. Qxc3 {23} Bxf6 {52} 14.
Bxf6 {20} Qxf6 {19} 15. Qc6+ {Looser1 gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.47s, max=0.8s) 14}
1-0
Seems I missed Nxc6 in that game. But that seems like a good representation of most of my Freak Attack games - quick, tactical, brutal.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by cmsMasterI don't know, you often see it on the queenside before the b pawn is pushed when the player has castled kingside or intends to. White is going to castle queenside anyway so it's really the same. I doubt you'll find many people who'd dismiss the Keres attack against the Scheveningen so why not try something similar against the Najdorf? Especially in view of how the English attack works (although slightly differently) against both openings.
Yep, I've seen it before, it's an excellent game for white. I think it's 6.Rg1 is pretty underrated - it does like strange though.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThat was my idea when I decided to play it! 🙂
I don't know, you often see it on the queenside before the b pawn is pushed when the player has castled kingside or intends to. White is going to castle queenside anyway so it's really the same. I doubt you'll find many people who'd dismiss the Keres attack against the Scheveningen so why not try something similar against the Najdorf? Especially in view of how the English attack works (although slightly differently) against both openings.
24 Apr 07
I've taken a closer look at my database, and after 6. ... e5 7. Nb3 the usual move is 7. ... Be6 with a score of 50% in 44 games, the problem moves could well be 7. ... h5 which effectively stops the g4 plan and scores 40% in 5 games and 7. ... b5 which occurred in 6 games of which black won five and white one. But I didn't have the game Korch posted and there may be others missing which redress it to white. Also 11 games isn't statistically significant, but in the tests they've had 7. h5 and 7. b5 seem to do well for black.
24 Apr 07
Originally posted by DeepThoughtWell in my opinion 7....h5 is not too good move because after this move black wont be able to castle kingside and their king will be sticked in centre.
I've taken a closer look at my database, and after 6. ... e5 7. Nb3 the usual move is 7. ... Be6 with a score of 50% in 44 games, the problem moves could well be 7. ... h5 which effectively stops the g4 plan and scores 40% in 5 games and 7. ... b5 which occurred in 6 games of which black won five and white one. But I didn't have the game Korch posted an ...[text shortened]... tically significant, but in the tests they've had 7. h5 and 7. b5 seem to do well for black.
02 May 07
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Originally posted by KorchI'm curious if you have the same opinion about 9. ...h5 in the main line English attack. It's interesting because h5 right now scores very well for Black (better than for White, but only overall, not in all variations) in the English attack. This is true for human and engine games. It seems like an odd antipositional move but it blocks the central idea of the English attack, the g4->g5 pawnstorm. Moreover, h5 is not extremely weakening on the kingside and Black can actually castle in some lines. This is a move I'm considering using when I play the Najdorf. I would really be interested in your analysis, hopefully with some variations. Thanks a lot!
Well in my opinion 7....h5 is not too good move because after this move black wont be able to castle kingside and their king will be sticked in centre.
03 May 07
Originally posted by exigentskyI must confess that I`m not specialist in these sharp Sicilian lines, so I may be wrong.
I'm curious if you have the same opinion about 9. ...h5 in the main line English attack. It's interesting because h5 right now scores very well for Black (better than for White, but only overall, not in all variations) in the English attack. This is true for human and engine games. It seems like an odd antipositional move but it blocks the central idea of ...[text shortened]... I would really be interested in your analysis, hopefully with some variations. Thanks a lot!