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Originally posted by Fat Lady
I much prefer OTB. I don't use databases or books when I'm playing correspondence chess, which makes it difficult to get a good position out of the opening.

The intensity of an OTB game means that I get a lot more into it than even the most exciting correspondence game and I get a real high when I win.

Another part of OTB chess which doesn't carry ove ...[text shortened]... d in the same evening so you can celebrate or commiserate with your teammates there and then!
In correspondence chess I`m playing better, because here I can use boks and databases, also I have more time for thinking and never have time trouble.

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I find OTB much more enjoyable and competitive. When I lose a game here I couldnt give a flying **** frankly, but losing OTB especially when theres team points riding on it is a different matter, im still niffed about an OTB loss from a year ago (grrrrr) 😛 I dont find correspondence chess gives me much drive to improve my game, I mean if I wasnt playing OTB I wouldnt bother to study the game as much....the only reason why I play on RHP isnt for the chess itself its just to brush up on some openings and the typical positions reached from them for OTB play.

I find 60+ min games on playchess more enjoyable than here but still those dont come close to the thrill of playing OTB.

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Originally posted by Bedlam
I find OTB much more enjoyable and competitive. When I lose a game here I couldnt give a flying **** frankly, but losing OTB especially when theres team points riding on it is a different matter, im still niffed about an OTB loss from a year ago (grrrrr) 😛 I dont find correspondence chess gives me much drive to improve my game, I mean if I wasnt playing OT ...[text shortened]... playchess more enjoyable than here but still those dont come close to the thrill of playing OTB.
I think the question was not about enjoy, but quality of your play.

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Originally posted by Korch
I think the question was not about enjoy, but quality of your play.
I play better OTB because I enjoy it more and am normally in a much more competitive mood 🙂

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I think I play better online, for some reason, when I am doing puzzles, when I set them up on a board, I don't see the solutions as well when they are in 2d. I try to solve both ways now to get better.

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Originally posted by Korch
I think the question was not about enjoy, but quality of your play.
That's how I took it. I certainly make fewer mistakes in correspondence, which has become online at these turn-based sites (I haven't mailed postcards since 1999).

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Originally posted by Bedlam
I find OTB much more enjoyable and competitive. When I lose a game here I couldnt give a flying **** frankly, but losing OTB especially when theres team points riding on it is a different matter, im still niffed about an OTB loss from a year ago (grrrrr) 😛 I dont find correspondence chess gives me much drive to improve my game, I mean if I wasnt playing OT ...[text shortened]... playchess more enjoyable than here but still those dont come close to the thrill of playing OTB.
I know what you mean, three times this season (out of only 6 games) I have made a late blunder losing 2 when I should have drawn one and one and drawn one when I should have won. On 2 occassions it cost my team points we would have won 1 match but got beat and drew another but got beat, and we are on the bottom of the table. On all occassions I was thinking about the game during the night and got up at about 4am because I could not sleep

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Originally posted by RahimK
Well you can eat and drink in OTB also. Don't do it at the table and no dirty looks.

If you like playing in your underwear do that, but this time you will get a lot of dirty looks. The choices you gotta make in life 🙁
well on here I don't have to be concerned about eating and drinking or wearing my underwear....I think you are missing the point entirely!!

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I don't play OTB anymore as I find it all too time consuming, though I agree with Bedlam and SteveTodd that its certainly more exciting. I've got an hour or so a day to spare, but no more. What I like about CC on RHP is that you can spread your games out over periods of time, which suits my life style thing.

The quality of my chess has also changed, from one where my style was suited to "playing an opponent psychologically" in OTB as opposed to playing the best possible chess you can play (within the time limits imposed by your lifestyle) in RHP.

I don't bother with databases/opening books as I don't want to put it that much effort, but they can be good if you want to practice your opening play for OTB or to improve your understanding and/or learn new lines.

The analyse feature in RHP is quite useful though, from the viewpoint that it helps to prevent silly mistakes (though that still does happen!) and therefore raise the bar higher, where opponents have to beat you by having better tactical and/or strategic skill rather than on luck (i.e. you blundering).

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Originally posted by stevetodd
I know what you mean, three times this season (out of only 6 games) I have made a late blunder losing 2 when I should have drawn one and one and drawn one when I should have won. On 2 occassions it cost my team points we would have won 1 match but got beat and drew another but got beat, and we are on the bottom of the table. On all occassions I was thinking about the game during the night and got up at about 4am because I could not sleep
Losing games like that certainly motivated me to improve more than anything on here could, some hard hard lessons have come from losing games which in turn lost the team places. Knockouts are even better (or worse depending how you see it) that one off match where you have to be at your very best woooooooo, the pulse really does get racing when those games become intense. I think its that sort of pressure which motivates people to become better players, I mean sure theres the wishy washy side that I want to understand chess deeper, learn more about the game etc but a lot of it is that I just want to win more games 😛

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Originally posted by Bedlam
Losing games like that certainly motivated me to improve more than anything on here could, some hard hard lessons have come from losing games which in turn lost the team places. Knockouts are even better (or worse depending how you see it) that one off match where you have to be at your very best woooooooo, the pulse really does get racing when those games b ...[text shortened]... s deeper, learn more about the game etc but a lot of it is that I just want to win more games 😛
Guess you take it as a sport, and I agree, its more adrenaline pumping knowing that you've got to go all out on a kamikaze attack in a worse position because your team's life depended on you winning... 😲

But age and life in general has caught up with me, so RHP is the only place where I can move at a slower (but not too slow!) pace. I try to play in an OTB style, though I always end up using that damned analysis function button when I get lazy...

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Hey folks, first time posting! I'm liking my stay here so far 🙂

I don't play very many OTB games. I've thought about joining a local chess club in my area but from what I hear they average about 1600 playing level, and me being an extremely weak player(I would say I'm about 1000-1100 right now), I feel I should prep my self first with a couple thousand games against equal strength players and hone my tactics first before I venture into that battlefield. 🙂

Sorry, went off on a bit of a tangent. I feel that when I do get the rare chance of playing OTB, I play weaker. I guess it's because I'm so used to playing on 2D displays on the computer. In real life the board looks almost differnt, and I can't quite see patterns as thoroughly as I do on my computer. OTB I make a lot more blunders and (as I'm told), miss a lot of chances to get the initiative.

Other than correspondence chess, I also play on Chessmaster which does have a 3d option, but the 3d isn't quite representative as real life, so I always end up going back to 2d views.

Anyhoo, that's my couple cents. I'm curious to see if anyone else has that 2d/3d conflict. So far I see one person in this thread with that minor prob...

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Originally posted by UndeadNightOrc
Hey folks, first time posting! I'm liking my stay here so far 🙂

I'm curious to see if anyone else has that 2d/3d conflict. So far I see one person in this thread with that minor prob...
That would be moi. I wonder too! Anybody else.

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Originally posted by UndeadNightOrc
[b]Hey folks, first time posting! I'm liking my stay here so far 🙂

I don't play very many OTB games. I've thought about joining a local chess club in my area but from what I hear they average about 1600 playing level, and me being an extremely weak player(I would say I'm about 1000-1100 right now), I feel I should prep my self first with a couple tho ...[text shortened]... the 3d isn't quite representative as real life, so I always end up going back to 2d views.
I'm much the same: weak player trying to learn more; maybe will join local chess club eventually. I too was a bit worried about the 2D/3D conflict: what I now do is have a real chess board and men next to the computer; I try to look at the real board when thinking about my moves (and even try to visualise moves before actually trying them out on the real board). Mostly I then just use the screen to make my move or see what my opponent's move is. Of course when I'm working through a chess book with games & variations then using a 2D computer board (e.g. Arena or Winboard) is much quicker than constantly setting up a real board. But for actual games (I never have more than 4 going at a time) I'd highly recommend using the Board next to screen method. Apart from anything else, there's a certain kinesthetic satisfaction in actually lifting and moving real (preferably wooden) pieces.

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