23 Sep 08
Originally posted by petrovitchI always love to hear English-speaking people say "zugzwang", but the correct German pronunciation is close to "TSOOK-tsvoung" ("-oung" as in "young" ). And "Zwischenzug" is "TSVIshen-tsook" (with an "i" like in "wish" ).
Zugzwang (TSOOKS-vahng), position in which the move makes a worse result
Zwischenzug (TSVEYE-shun-tsook) - in-between move
23 Sep 08
I generally make an attempt to pronounce chess words correctly, but I draw the line at pronouncing Ruy Lopez as "Rue-y Lopeth". (I pronounce Ruy correctly - It's Lopez that's the problem.) If I did that at my club, they'd either think that I had a severe lisp, or they'd haul me off to the funny farm.
23 Sep 08
Originally posted by NordlysYeah, those are two I took problem too.
I always love to hear English-speaking people say "zugzwang", but the correct German pronunciation is close to "TSOOK-tsvoung" ("-oung" as in "young" ). And "Zwischenzug" is "TSVIshen-tsook" (with an "i" like in "wish" ).
The thing is the z in german is a sound that isn't really in the EPA. We don't use it, despite it being in the IPA. That being said, even German, with its small speech base (after Hoechduetsch killed many dialectical differences) has many variable sounds. Russian is just the same and the Great Britain is just a catastrophe for standard sounds.
23 Sep 08
Originally posted by tamuziEPA = English Phonetic Alphabet (is there even such a thing)?
Yeah, those are two I took problem too.
The thing is the z in german is a sound that isn't really in the EPA. We don't use it, despite it being in the IPA.
What really surprised me was the "EYE" in the suggested pronunciation of "Zwischenzug". "I" is never pronounced as "eye" in German. If it's long (which it isn't in "Zwischenzug" ), it sounds like "ee".