Originally posted by JardreamerWon 6079
I think that RHP staff should make a strong action against Sagator or generally against every cheater. I ask most respect for us and our subscription on RHP.
is it possible create a class action?
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Aside from the fact that he's well below %50, there is the practical consideration that if he ran an engine for all the games he played, his computer would be too slow for him to make his moves.
Originally posted by Proper Knob
He/she is not a cheat, they're an addict.
560,000 odd moves in just over 6 years. That's around 250 moves everyday for the last 6 years.
honus though has made nearly 650,000 moves in a little over 6 years, that's nearly 300 moves a day. They're not cheats, just dedicated.
He/she is not a cheat, they're an addict. -Proper Knob
I agree. I see no point why this thread was started in the first place. It is ludicrous for people saying this guy is a cheat. Because he makes a lot of moves ?! Give me a break ! More so, give sagator a break ! He is enjoying himself here at RHP win,lose or draw. Gosh !
Originally posted by JardreamerMaybe you should take a look at some of your fellow clan members if you want to look for dodgy players.
I think that RHP staff should make a strong action against Sagator or generally against every cheater. I ask most respect for us and our subscription on RHP.
is it possible create a class action?
Pick one of your higher rated players and see how much they have "improved" over the years.
I smell more crap within your Clan ranks than I do with Sagator who just plays a lot of chess.
Maybe a Class Action should be created against the Italian Job!
Originally posted by Jardreamerthat deserves more than 1 thumb down, i have played him 64 times, fast and furious, you dont need 33 seconds to make your first move, or the first 5. sagator likes to play you like to moan. get a life..... ðŸ˜
I think that RHP staff should make a strong action against Sagator or generally against every cheater. I ask most respect for us and our subscription on RHP.
is it possible create a class action?
Originally posted by morgskiI think you can keep your house. Sagator is definitely a human player - 10 minutes of going over his games reveals that. Heck, just looking at some of the mistakes he makes are similar to mistakes I make in 1 minute blitz games. He's actually not a bad player I don't think.
Sagator hasn't done anything wrong though! As his profile states, he is here to help you improve your game. If he feels that playing as fast and as often as possible is the way to get maximum value for subscription money, then that is up to him.
There is no point whatsoever in having multiple people use one profile to play mediocre chess, I would bet my mortgage that sagator is not cheating.
I can't imagine how long it will take for him to train his mind to settle down and evaluate a position after he gets done playing 900 games at a time. Though, you could argue that his intuition is growing right off the scale from all the positions he's seeing.
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Originally posted by adramforallI apologize to everybody for this rude answer, but....what a poor thought! play chess, it's better! This is a threat about Sagator's games (strange games). if you are some question about, it's better you put in the table numbers too, not only emptiness.
Maybe you should take a look at some of your fellow clan members if you want to look for dodgy players.
Pick one of your higher rated players and see how much they have "improved" over the years.
I smell more crap within your Clan ranks than I do with Sagator who just plays a lot of chess.
Maybe a Class Action should be created against the Italian Job!
Originally posted by JardreamerHave you had a chance to re-evaluate this statement yet? This is a pretty strong, rude, and essentially unfounded accusation in a public forum.
I think that RHP staff should make a strong action against Sagator or generally against every cheater. I ask most respect for us and our subscription on RHP.
is it possible create a class action?
In order to "ask most respect for us", it might be worthwhile to begin by showing respect to others.
Originally posted by greenpawn34He was apologizing for the other response to his post, not his own. In my mind, that just makes it worse.
The lad said sorry Paul, leave it at that.
I too played over a few games. The do look like blitz games. He screws up
a few good positions. Missed basic tacitics a few times. The kind of play
one sees when a player is moving too fast.
Anonymity and civility vary inversely as usual, it seems.
What did I say?
I said I'll be off the Forum concentrating on my games.
and I ended with."Don't fight."
I turn my back for 10 minutes and you are squabbling with each other
calling people cheats and demanding apologies.
Ha. I said I would not let this tournament take over my life.
Sad git me blew a week's holidays just to give the openings 24/7.
It's a god job most of the boys were quick movers else I would have wasted
a week's holiday.
I've have been up all night plotting the downfall of a few lads (and trying to
stave off defeats.) but now I am totally knacked.
I was meant to meet a pal at noon but that's off. What a fool.
See you in 6-8 hours. Don't fight!
Originally posted by Jardreamerjust because you can only manage 19 games at a time, why are you on here slandering a good active player, the only STRANGE person here is you, have you ever played the guy?
I apologize to everybody for this rude answer, but....what a poor thought! play chess, it's better! This is a threat about Sagator's games (strange games). if you are some question about, it's better you put in the table numbers too, not only emptiness.