19 May 08
I did and Bishop to c4 is no threat after the queen retreats back to d8( I am assuming white plays g3 to get out of check) Just move the knight to e5 after after white plays Bc4. great post for the knight with those two isolated center pawns. Blocks them and creates targets and protects f7 and attacks the bishop on c4 all in one move. Not a good line for white imo.
19 May 08
Originally posted by onehandgannAfter 9 Qg4 Black is compelled to play g6 and after Qf4, Ne5 isn't an option until after d6. White seems to get a strong attack in that line.
I did and Bishop to c4 is no threat after the queen retreats back to d8( I am assuming white plays g3 to get out of check) Just move the knight to e5 after after white plays Bc4. great post for the knight with those two isolated center pawns. Blocks them and creates targets and protects f7 and attacks the bishop on c4 all in one move. Not a good line for white imo.
19 May 08
Then if white plays his bishop bishop to c4 you play your knight to e5.
White has no attack. on f7 because he has to retreat his bishop first(a very important tempo for black) and then black can play his knight to f6 blocking f7 and taking away key attacking squares from whites queen.
Look at this. Black is fine.
19 May 08
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Originally posted by onehandgannExcept White doesn't have to retreat the Bishop, he can castle throwing another piece onto the attack on f7.
Then if white plays his bishop bishop to c4 you play your knight to e5.
White has no attack. on f7 because he has to retreat his bishop first(a very important tempo for black) and then black can play his knight to f6 blocking f7 and taking away key attacking squares from whites queen.
Look at this. Black is fine.
So the line being discussed is:
e4 e5
Nf3 Nf6
d4 exd4
Nxd4 Bc5
Be3 Qf6
Nb5 Bxe3
fxe3 Qh4 check
g3 Qd8
Qg4 g6
Qf4 d6
Bc4 Ne5
O-O ???
19 May 08
Originally posted by no1marauderI thought he was mentioning this line: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Be3 Qf6 6. Nb5
If White is allowed to move twice in a row that would be great, but with the Knight at d4 Bxc5 isn't an option.
4 ....... Nf6 runs into Kaspy's favorite: 5 Nxc6 bxc6 6 e5 which is a very complicated line.
But yeah, it doesn't make much sense....
Actually I'm having a game at this moment that is running that complicated line. I prefered 4. ... Nf6 because honestly I saw more counterplay with that move... But I guess I'll be experimenting another lines in the times to come.