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Strange but reasonable question

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I have stupid problem with this site. I think way too short. For example I think that I spend on average 20-25 min. of thinking in a single 3 day per move game.

I know, that is the wrong way to go, and I know it. But often, when I see that my opponent is online, and especially if I am in the good position, I am completely blinded by the impatience, so I spend 30 seconds on move and play it (WAY to often I play my favorite move by heart) instead of spending sime time to think what the position calls for.

Maybe one reason for doing that is that my tactical skills are far beyond my strategical understanding, so I often don't know what should be my plan, so I mindeless make almost random moves (not hunging piece, when I say "random" I mean without any plan except developing pieces and attack in way that seems at least approximative good) and I wait for some tactical opportunity. So I decided to spend a hour every day next 2 months on strategy to improve my positional knowledge and planning concepts.

Second reason for doing too fast moves is that I am too courious to see what will happen. And altough every day I tell to myself "don't do that", often happens that I do that without even noticing it at the begining.

Does anybody have same problems? How do you control yourself to play with patience and wisdom? I think my rating is 200-300 points lower that it should be because of that. When I sometimes decide to use my full playing potencial and take time to analyze, suddenly defeating 1500 players isn't problem anymore. But rating doesn't matter, the main problem is that I am developing wrong mental habits,and I am working against myself and my chess skills in that way. It is difficult to stop.

How do you defend aganist that mental issues and the lack of self-discipline ?!

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Please reply. It was difficult to write this thread on English... :-(

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You already know your problem. So don't do it anymore.

Also, thinking about a move longer doesn't mean its necessarily going to be better. Study chess and then you will make fast moves but they will be good also.

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I really would love to tell you I have the answers for this. Just take more time on the moves and if you find a game where you made a mistake (because of impatience or otherwise) study that mistake to find out WHY it was a mistake and what exactly would have been better. Then, why it would be better. Over and over again. You'll never be error free. It just doesn't happen. I have a game going right now that I could quite possibly have thrown away a winning position in. It happens. Study but don't torture yourself.

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Originally posted by JDChess
I really would love to tell you I have the answers for this. Just take more time on the moves and if you find a game where you made a mistake (because of impatience or otherwise) study that mistake to find out WHY it was a mistake and what exactly would have been better. Then, why it would be better. Over and over again. You'll never be error free. It just d ossibly have thrown away a winning position in. It happens. Study but don't torture yourself.
I mostly agree with you. But if you play once a day, six game, each move 5-10 minutes in constructive way it's better than 15 games a month, with catastrofal mistakes. Mistakes can't be avoided, but losing from 1300 because of obvious blunder should happen only in 5 min for example look at this game. If I studied a position for 3 minutes I would never throw game away like this.

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Game 3043590



Before Rf1e1, nearly senseless move, I should see the threat of Bd6!, it's lost position for white, at least I think, not to speak about open g file... After that, g3 was blef in hope that black wouldn't see that he is winning material.

Idiotic playing, really. I resigned after that, because my opponent fully deserved this victory aganist moron2908

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Game 3043590



Before Rf1e1, nearly senseless move, I should see the threat of Bd6!, it's lost position for white, at least I think, not to speak about open g file... After that, g3 was blef in hope that black wouldn't see that he is winning material.

Idiotic playing, really. I resigned after that, because my opponent fully deserved this victory aganist moron2908
Not that I am really the one to listen to, but I don't really think that Re1 was that bad. I think earlier you shouldn't have castled kingside because black already had an attack on that side. I also think g3 was a worse move anyways.

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Some moves require no thought. They just pop out. But then you have bad moves that pop out as good ones. So now you have to plan out your good moves. Then some moves are good but not just yet. Wait for your next move to do them. Those get me sometimes. I think I spend more time after I move looking at the board deciding my next move than I do before I make a move. I have tried to slow down and even use a database in my past few games.

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Deep breath, we all make stupid moves in chess, relax and let it happen. I used to agonize about every mistake and found I enjoy the game more if I spend roughly a minute analyzing each game when I move and let it go. Yeah, I make mistakes, but I find myself less annoyed overall. It's part of the learning process. And sometimes you need to play a move that looks good to you even if your teacher says you will lose the game because the butt kicking you receive afterwards will make you realize they were right and you won't forget it in the future.

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I do the same. When I do it, I blunder, I lose to another "weaker" opponent. Once I am in a bad position I may slow down and think but it may be too late although sometimes you can give a piece odds to a significantly weaker opponent and still win. You must resist the temptation as the "obvious" move is not usually the best move. In fact often it is a blunder.

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The advice from strong correspondence players probably applies here: Never reply to a move the same day you receive it. Usually they will receive the move, look over the position then go to another game. Some time later they may get an idea then go back and check it out. Once they decide on a move they play it and don’t waste time second guessing.

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Yes but since I am not subscriber I want to play as much games as possible during certain period of time, so it is really tempting to play fast and often. I am considering becoming a subscriber, but maybe is better to play slow six games at the time but quality games, maybe even with annotations (Since I am reading Reasses your chess)...

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Yes but since I am not subscriber I want to play as much games as possible during certain period of time, so it is really tempting to play fast and often. I am considering becoming a subscriber, but maybe is better to play slow six games at the time but quality games, maybe even with annotations (Since I am reading Reasses your chess)...
Yeah, that's the reason that I ultimately became a subscriber, I probably still make 5-10 moves a day/1-2 games a week, but I'm not suck waiting for people to respond or frustrated because a player goes on vacation or just drops off so I'm waiting for 10 days to take a timed win.

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This is EXACTLY my problem on this site as well. The point of the site, being so relaxed on the amount of time you have, is that you can sit and think about your move, but I'm impatient so when an opponent of mine is also online I'll make moves quickly and thus totally defeat the purpose of playing the game the way this is set up. I'll have to discipline myself to take longer...

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Originally posted by ivan2908
Yes but since I am not subscriber I want to play as much games as possible during certain period of time, so it is really tempting to play fast and often. I am considering becoming a subscriber, but maybe is better to play slow six games at the time but quality games, maybe even with annotations (Since I am reading Reasses your chess)...
Subscribing is a cure to that disease. 🙂

Seriously, it's a great site Worth the money to keep it around.

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