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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
don't worry about me 😛
I`m worrying about people who may decide to play openings like you.

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Originally posted by Korch
I`m worrying about people who may decide to play openings like you.
alright, I'm sorry 😳

Here's a different game I messed up at the end 🙁: Game 3480116

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I would make a clan challenge but you're unavaliable for challenges so I challenge you as black to a Latvian Gambit game. Your time controls. This time, let it be rated. 😠

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
Here's a different game I messed up at the end 🙁: Game 3480116
Your opening was not so bad, but you should not have to play 14...Nbd7? - 14...b4 was much better. also 16...Ne8? was too passive - better was 16...Ne5.

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Originally posted by Dutch Defense
I would make a clan challenge but you're unavaliable for challenges so I challenge you as black to a Latvian Gambit game. Your time controls. This time, let it be rated. 😠
Tomorrow (until Sunday) i`ll have OTB tournament. So maybe next week.

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Originally posted by Korch
Tomorrow (until Sunday) i`ll have OTB tournament. So maybe next week.
Fine with me.

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A tricky try would be the danish gambit 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3

or you can even sac two pawns with 4.Bc4 cxb2 5.Bxb2.

However, this is one of those better known gambits,so its surprise value may not be as high as you wanted

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I'd like some openings that I can look into that take my opponents out of book, preferably in the first few moves.
My OTB opponents ratings will likely be in the 1400-1600 range, 30 mins games I think.

I'm considering the Latvian gambit 1.e4...e5, 2.Nf3...f5 as black, mostly to avoid all those Ruy Lopez's & the Grob 1.g4 as white as an occaisional w ...[text shortened]... openings that offer tactical shots & take the opposition out of their comfort zone early on?
Latvian Gambit is great against an opponent that's never seen it and is unprepared. If he's as booked up as you are, it's still good. Very deep water to walk into. No one has it figured out yet.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Latvian Gambit is great against an opponent that's never seen it and is unprepared. If he's as booked up as you are, it's still good. Very deep water to walk into. No one has it figured out yet.
Yeah - bit like the Traxler.
As soon as someone says "this line is clearly winning for white..." someone else comes along with the refutation of the refutation!

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Originally posted by chesskid001
A tricky try would be the danish gambit 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3

or you can even sac two pawns with 4.Bc4 cxb2 5.Bxb2.

However, this is one of those better known gambits,so its surprise value may not be as high as you wanted
Many of the lines mix into the Morra which I already play as first choice against 1...c5.
I do prefer 2.f4 against 1...e5 but the Danish is a very good suggestion if I end up playing the same people at the club & they brush-up on their KG theory.

I kind of like the double-sac version of the Danish also.

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I'd like some openings that I can look into that take my opponents out of book, preferably in the first few moves.
My OTB opponents ratings will likely be in the 1400-1600 range, 30 mins games I think.

I'm considering the Latvian gambit 1.e4...e5, 2.Nf3...f5 as black, mostly to avoid all those Ruy Lopez's & the Grob 1.g4 as white as an occaisional w ...[text shortened]... openings that offer tactical shots & take the opposition out of their comfort zone early on?
My advice is just to study the game more and stop worrying about trying to trick your opponents with surprise openings...you can come out worse from the opening but if you know the position better then your opponent then you will have a good shot at winning the game. Spending too much time learning bad lines that you hope your opponents doesn't know really can't be that good for you.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Latvian Gambit is great against an opponent that's never seen it and is unprepared. If he's as booked up as you are, it's still good. Very deep water to walk into. No one has it figured out yet.
I hate it when people play 3.d3, which makes the game so freakin boring. 😞 😠

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Originally posted by Restless Soul
My advice is just to study the game more and stop worrying about trying to trick your opponents with surprise openings...you can come out worse from the opening but if you know the position better then your opponent then you will have a good shot at winning the game. Spending too much time learning bad lines that you hope your opponents doesn't know really can't be that good for you.
Well I take your point.
I'm not looking to trick them as such, just take them out of their comfort zone.

GM's do this as well. Remember when Kasparov revived the Evans Gambit & Scotch games?
All of a sudden there was a surge of interest in these openings that were viewed largely as "busted cheap shots" before these games. Lines were re-examined refutations were refuted, yada yada yada.

I've won about 80% of my Morra games because I'm familiar with the tactical/strategic nuances of the opening & they are not.
My record against the main line Sicilians was probably about 50%.

I'd rather have fun playing my chess than play the Italian game, open Sicilian or Ruy Lopez (which my opponents will surely be familiar & comfortable with) every game as both white & black!

In fact I think this is why many people give up our great game at a young age:

last one out, turn out the lights! 😴zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😴

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Well I take your point.
I'm not looking to trick them as such, just take them out of their comfort zone.

GM's do this as well. Remember when Kasparov revived the Evans Gambit & Scotch games?
All of a sudden there was a surge of interest in these openings that were viewed largely as "busted cheap shots" before these games. Lines were re-examined r ...[text shortened]... z😴
[fen]r1bq1rk1/1pp2pp1/p1np1n1p/2b1p3/2B1P3/P1NP1N1P/1PP2PP1/R1BQ1RK1 w - - 0 9[/fen]
That is such a boring position.

Offer a draw before you die! 😴

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As black the bg7 fianchetto has always has given me good games

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