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Originally posted by kmac27
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No, school is not an excuse. If you sit down to play chess, what is holding you back? You say outside factors? I mean, your current playing strength is not at all limited by "lack of study time", "laziness", etc. etc. - it is what it is.

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Because I play to enjoy myself, not to improve.

I could probably be a better player if I studied tactics, or openings, or worked on endgames, or if I analysed my games to see what I've done wrong. But it doesn't bother me - I play at the level I play at. Works for me.

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Originally posted by Maxacre42
This is the exact same method I used for my openings, and it continues working very well for me. However, don't make the same time-consuming mistake I did. Don't go(inserting moves) too deep in all variations. 90% of them you will never see in your life, which makes 90% of your massive memorizing task completely useless. Even for the unique variations I di ...[text shortened]... oves than the precise variations. Of course, go super deep in the main and popular lines!
well, that depends. in dragon you quite routinely get 20-30 moves even in blitz. but yeah, I know what you mean. -I try to focus on structures relevant to my personal preferences, and typical structures in general. I can always come back and add less important lines later.

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Originally posted by wormwood
well, that depends. in dragon you quite routinely get 20-30 moves even in blitz.
1500s on FICS play 30 moves theory?!? Example plz

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Originally posted by untergang
Because I play to enjoy myself, not to improve.

I could probably be a better player if I studied tactics, or openings, or worked on endgames, or if I analysed my games to see what I've done wrong. But it doesn't bother me - I play at the level I play at. Works for me.
But in the games themselves, what is lacking. You say, " if I studied this, if I studied that (which I don't)..." - but when you play... do you know on what moves things are going wrong? Do you know while making an inferior move, that you would have played a different move had you been stronger?

(it is still difficult for me to explain what exactly I am looking for, you see...)

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Originally posted by orion25
let me get this straight, wormwood, at the 2000 up level you actually need to punch lines into your brain? But you do know the main-lines right? What you are saying is you need to memorize lesser important lines as well? I had never quite thought about this, but I expected that even at 2000 level it would sufice to know the main-lines...
pretty much, yeah. it was hardly ever necessary before, you just tried to work things out as you went. I first started putting time into openings at 1800 or 1900 I think. and it was really just dabbling compared to what I'm doing now.

and yes, there are loads of 1500s with much better openings than I have now. especially the guys who've played for decades.

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Ehm... no. The "main lines" of what opening? All? No. I do not know them
the main lines of the openings you play

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Originally posted by wormwood
well, that depends. in dragon you quite routinely get 20-30 moves even in blitz. but yeah, I know what you mean. -I try to focus on structures relevant to my personal preferences, and typical structures in general. I can always come back and add less important lines later.
Yes! What I mean is that I just took my book on the English and another on Caro-Kann and I methodically inserted every variation in the book on CPT, which took a shatload of time and was useless for 90% of the content.

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Originally posted by orion25
the main lines of the openings you play
What openings do I play... good question, good question indeed. Depends on what my opponent does. 🙂

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Originally posted by Maxacre42
Yes! What I mean is that I just took my book on the English and another on Caro-Kann and I methodically inserted every variation in the book on CPT, which took a shatload of time and was useless for 90% of the content.
This can't be the way to learn openings.

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Originally posted by heinzkat
1500s on FICS play 30 moves theory?!? Example plz
I don't think that's possible, since for that player to play 30 moves of theory, it would mean wormwood would have to play 30 moves of theory also 😛

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Originally posted by heinzkat
1500s on FICS play 30 moves theory?!? Example plz
well I don't care to go looking, but from memory this one and close relatives come up quite often, as happens here on RHP as well. once you hit a dragon player as white, and the train gets rolling with Bh6, there pretty much only 1 crossroads before running out of theory. after ...e5, whether white takes the pawn right away or moves Ne2 first.

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Originally posted by wormwood
well I don't care to go looking, but from memory this one and close relatives come up quite often, as happens here on RHP as well.

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Well, I never come that far. Usually I avoid O-O-O when my opponent pulls that g6 Bg7 prank on me. But come on, how often have you actually played this very line in Blitz?

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Originally posted by heinzkat
Well, I never come that far. Usually I avoid O-O-O when my opponent pulls that g6 Bg7 prank on me. But come on, how often have you actually played this very line in Blitz?
3 or 4 times, and 3 times here I think.

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