31 Jan 06
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Originally posted by TestriderWrong. White cannot stay in front of the pawn with the opposition. Draw.
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I know this is answering a different question that what was asked, but...
Black could have easily forced a draw on its last move. By playing Rf6
and forcing an exchange of rooks, it is very easy from there to attain
the draw (since the black king will be well positioned in front of the
advan ...[text shortened]... is a straight loss, after Rxf6 Kxf6 Kf4 black doesn't have opposition an white can get a queen.
EDIT: OOPS! Thought it was White's move; it is a win with Black to move.
31 Jan 06
Just an observation.....Basic Chess Endings (also on old, out of print endgame book by Peter Griffiths), and probably other sources, as well as posts from several players here, point out this is an elementary draw. The fact that it's causing so much discussion leads me to believe some of us need to brush up on our endings!
14 Feb 06
Originally posted by masscatAfter 50 g7 Rg8 white replies with 51 Kf2. Now he threatens to advance his King and win the black f-pawn. Blacks responses are limited to advancing the f-pawn, which loses it to gxf3 or moving the King which allows White's King to advance. Either way, White has 2 pawns to none, and in one instance they aren't doubled. Can black trade off the advanced g-pawn and Rooks, AND maintain the opposition to save the draw, I don't know. I never look that far ahead, which is probably why I lose. In any case, my point was that White would have better chances, not a guaranteed win, and I believe that I have explained it unless I missed something obvious, which is always possible with me.
Help me out here. After 50.g7 Rg8 how should White play for the win?
14 Feb 06
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I just played this position out (after 50 g7) agains Fritz 8, allowing Fritz 2 minutes per move. Here is the way it finished:
50. g7 Rg8
51. Kf2 Ke5
52. Kf3 Kf5
53. Rxf4+ Ke5
54. Rg4 Kf5
55. g3 Ke5
56. Rg5+ Kd4
57. Kf4 Kd3
58. Kf5 Kf2
59. Kf6 Kf3
58. Kf7 resigns
*position after 51. Kf2