16 Jul 06
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemUnfair position. More exactly would have been down a queen with only kings on the board, or down a queen with no compensation.
Really?
[fen]3k4/1p6/bPp1p1p1/1pP1PpP1/1P3P2/3NK3/2q5/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Edit, seems Fritz thinks it's won also, so once again it's time to resign...assuming Fritz is right.
17 Jul 06
Actually, what has suprised me the most so far is how many people would resign a Bishop, Knight vs. King endgame (11% so far). I have been playing chess for several years now, and for the life of me I can never accomplish this. I imagine (especially since it is so rare -- in over 3000 games, I have never seen it in an actual game) I am positive very many people wouldn't be able to do it.
Perhaps a "sympathy resignation?"
17 Jul 06
Originally posted by BlueEyedRookMost people could do it if they have access to correspondence resources.
Actually, what has suprised me the most so far is how many people would resign a Bishop, Knight vs. King endgame (11% so far). I have been playing chess for several years now, and for the life of me I can never accomplish this. I imagine (especially since it is so rare -- in over 3000 games, I have never seen it in an actual game) I am positive very many people wouldn't be able to do it.
Perhaps a "sympathy resignation?"
17 Jul 06
Originally posted by ShinidokiIf I were playing Kasparov, I would already be certain I was going to lose. So dropping a pawn doesn't change much. I think I would need to be far enough down that I feel like I've lost against someone of my own level before I would resign even against Kasparov. That is kind of a special case though. Really an exhibition game.
If I merely dropped a pawn against Kasparov I would probably resign, But i may drop a whole Knight before I resign in another game against someone my level or lower.....
the simple reason is, comebacks are very possible against weaker players...
Just being a Knight down isn't enough for me to resign, although if it comes with crappy position too, it might do the trick.
17 Jul 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZI don't disagree with you.
Most people could do it if they have access to correspondence resources.
Actually, the trick to my little survey is that every single position (except Figure 5 (Knight, Knight vs. King) situation is a forced win. And I am about 99% sure that I could force that win in any of those 9 diagrams -- Except the Bishop, Knight vs. king scenario.
The knight and bishop just are such an odd pair.... I can never figure out how to do this. But if you gave me enough time and enough resources, I probably could figure it out . . . . emphasis on the "probably." 🙁
17 Jul 06
Originally posted by cmsMasterFritz thinks it's ahead 9 points, and it's right. That figure, however, says nothing about Black's winning chances.
Unfair position. More exactly would have been down a queen with only kings on the board, or down a queen with no compensation.
Edit, seems Fritz thinks it's won also, so once again it's time to resign...assuming Fritz is right.
Did you play out a few moves on Fritz, to see how it wins Black's position? Have it play itself even - see how far it gets.
17 Jul 06
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemCan anyone tell me how many moves Fritz will play in a shootout before it decides it is a draw?
Fritz thinks it's ahead 9 points, and it's right. That figure, however, says nothing about Black's winning chances.
Did you play out a few moves on Fritz, to see how it wins Black's position? Have it play itself even - see how far it gets.
17 Jul 06
Originally posted by Dragon FireThere are at least two possibilities.
Is this position possible?
Presumably the b5 pawn came from a6 and the B can't get to a6 with a pawn on b7 and b5.
Can anyone demonstrate how this position is in fact valid?
1) Pb5 came from b6. Black's Bishop got into a6, then he played ...b5 and ...Nb6. White then played Pa5xb6.
2) After moving his Bishop to a6, Black made two pawn captures: c6xb5, followed by d7xc6.