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Who was the biggest cheat?

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Originally posted by carpiste
but i will happily play anyone and tell them how to be a better player...
would you like to coach me for free ?

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Originally posted by DawgHaus
Let's not jump to too many conclusions. Weyerstrass was strong in correspondence well before computers became a factor. Here's a old win over a future CC World Champion.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1460971
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1251434

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Originally posted by Korch
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1251434
What's your point?

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The opposition on RHP is of a lower standard than Weyerstrass would generally meet on ICCF so maybe his better performance here is not such a surprise. On other sites where the opposition is tougher he loses.

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This is a pass/fail - anyone who would cheat is the biggest cheat.

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Originally posted by Kepler
The opposition on RHP is of a lower standard than Weyerstrass would generally meet on ICCF so maybe his better performance here is not such a surprise. On other sites where the opposition is tougher he loses.
Good Point

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Originally posted by Kepler
The opposition on RHP is of a lower standard than Weyerstrass would generally meet on ICCF so maybe his better performance here is not such a surprise. On other sites where the opposition is tougher he loses.t
He has played with many banned engine users in RHP which makes doubtful argument about opposition of a lower standard.

Also game I have mentioned he lost not because of "higher standart" of his opponent but due to his own weak play (horrible blunder in 11th move). Here is that game:




And he has only few loses in sites like Gameknot which are full of cheats, as admins of these sites does absolutely nothing to fight against them.

So its obvious that his performance in RHP and other similar sites is obviously better.

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That game is 19 years old. How well did you play 19 years ago?

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Originally posted by Kepler
That game is 19 years old. How well did you play 19 years ago?
As I have 26 then 19 years ago I had only 7 (when I only learned hot to play chess). Weyerstrass (according to his Gameknot profile) has 52 - so 19 years ago he had 33 (when according to chessgames he have been played chess for at least 19 years). Chess players usually have better results in 30+ than 50+ age.

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Originally posted by Korch
Cheap demagogy. As I have 26 then 19 years ago I had only 7. Weyerstrass (according to his Gameknot profile) has 52 - so 19 years ago he had 33. Chess players usually have better results in 30+ than 50+ age.
I think only one big blunder doesn't prove anything about his strength. But given the statistics of engine matchups in his RHP games in the OTB club forums, I won't try to defend him about this subject.

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Originally posted by diskamyl
I think only one big blunder doesn't prove anything about his strength. But given the statistics of engine matchups in his RHP games in the OTB club forums, I won't try to defend him about this subject.
Those statistics were pretty damning. However, what I found more amazing was that some of his opponents had even higher matchups with Fritz - but they still lost!

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Originally posted by Korch
He has played with many banned engine users in RHP which makes doubtful argument about opposition of a lower standard.

Also game I have mentioned he lost not because of "higher standart" of his opponent but due to his own weak play (horrible blunder in 11th move). Here is that game:

[pgn]
[Event "corr NBC/"]
[Site "corr NBC/"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[ ...[text shortened]... at his performance in RHP and other similar sites is obviously better.
Such horrendous blunder is unusual even in OTB, let alone CC. It is hard to believe this game is representative of his real strength by the time he played it.
what is remarkable about this player is the fact that he never lost a single game in RHP even though he most certainly played against engine users, banned or not.
On the other hand, he has been around for quite a while and was certainly investigated.
Isn't the fact he's still around an indication he is not an engine user beyong a reasonable doubt?

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Originally posted by smaia
Such horrendous blunder is unusual even in OTB, let alone CC. It is hard to believe this game is representative of his real strength by the time he played it.
what is remarkable about this player is the fact that he never lost a single game in RHP even though he most certainly played against engine users, banned or not.
On the other hand, he has been around ...[text shortened]... t the fact he's still around an indication he is not an engine user beyong a reasonable doubt?
no, he can be a centaur...

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Originally posted by smaia
Such horrendous blunder is unusual even in OTB, let alone CC. It is hard to believe this game is representative of his real strength by the time he played it.
what is remarkable about this player is the fact that he never lost a single game in RHP even though he most certainly played against engine users, banned or not.
On the other hand, he has been around ...[text shortened]... t the fact he's still around an indication he is not an engine user beyong a reasonable doubt?
I did not say that that short game represent his real strenght. I understand that even the strongest players can have their bad days. It only seems surprising for me that player who is able to make blunders have made zero blunders in RHP.

About being still around - look at User 51824 for example - he have been around for almost 5 years.

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