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My game number 1566844. I was winning and they call it a draw?

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
My game number 1566844. I was winning and they call it a draw?
Stalemate. Google it.

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I did. I still don't get it. Did you even watch the game?

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
I did. I still don't get it. Did you even watch the game?
Black is not in check and cannot move. That is stalemate and a draw.

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Thank you.

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LOL. That has to be the first stalemate here other then a king and pawn vs King.

You should look before making a move.

And when you are head like that when in doubt keep them in check.

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Originally posted by RBHILL
LOL. That has to be the first stalemate here other then a king and pawn vs King.

You should look before making a move.

And when you are head like that when in doubt keep them in check.
Making no sense as always RB.

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
I did. I still don't get it. Did you even watch the game?
First line of first result of google search for stalemate..."
Stalemate is a situation in chess where the player whose turn it is to move has no legal moves but is not in check."

What's the problem?

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
My game number Game 1566844. I was winning and they call it a draw?

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Originally posted by dmnelson84
My game number 1566844. I was winning and they call it a draw?
Just a suggestion but if you don't know the rules of chess, you should read them. Stalemate is rather elementary and you should know about it. Do you also know what en passant is?

If you play over the board chess you would also benifit from knowing when and why you can claim "insufficient losing chances" (in the USCF, if a class C player could win/draw against an expert you can claim a draw, it is useful in time trouble). I didn't check your nationality but your federation may have other rules which it may behoove you to know.

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Originally posted by zebano
Just a suggestion but if you don't know the rules of chess, you should read them. Stalemate is rather elementary and you should know about it. Do you also know what en passant is?

If you play over the board chess you would also benifit from knowing when and why you can claim "insufficient losing chances" (in the USCF, if a class C player could win/draw ...[text shortened]... heck your nationality but your federation may have other rules which it may behoove you to know.
The insufficient losing chances can only be invoked when less than two minutes remain on your clock and there is no increment. And only on games played under USCF rules. It's also a stupid rule.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
The insufficient losing chances can only be invoked when less than two minutes remain on your clock and there is no increment. And only on games played under USCF rules. It's also a stupid rule.
I never heard of this and sounds quite weird,can you explain this rule?
No joke,I'm really curious,"insufficient losing chance" sounds pretty absurd........

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Originally posted by Ravello
I never heard of this and sounds quite weird,can you explain this rule?
No joke,I'm really curious,"insufficient losing chance" sounds pretty absurd........
http://www.gatewaychess.org/Insufficient%20Losing%20Chances.pdf

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
The insufficient losing chances can only be invoked when less than two minutes remain on your clock and there is no increment. And only on games played under USCF rules. It's also a stupid rule.
It's a good rule to prevent yahoos who want to drag out obviously drawn games on the off chance their opponent will run out of time. I suppose you don't agree with three move repetition, perpetual check and the 50 move rules either; let 'em play until somebody runs out of time!

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Originally posted by no1marauder
It's a good rule to prevent yahoos who want to drag out obviously drawn games on the off chance their opponent will run out of time. I suppose you don't agree with three move repetition, perpetual check and the 50 move rules either; let 'em play until somebody runs out of time!
FIDE rules of chess

10.2

If the player, having the move, has less than two minutes left on his clock, he may claim a draw before his flag falls. He shall stop the clocks and summon the arbiter.

a. If the arbiter agrees the opponent is making no effort to win the game by normal means, or that it is not possible to win by normal means, then he shall declare the game drawn. Otherwise he shall postpone his decision or reject the claim.

b. If the arbiter postpones his decision, the opponent may be awarded two extra minutes and the game shall continue in the presence of an arbiter, if possible. The arbiter shall declare the final result later in the game or after a flag has fallen. He shall declare the game drawn if he agrees that the final position cannot be won by normal means, or that the opponent was not making sufficient attempts to win by normal means.

c. If the arbiter has rejected the claim, the opponent shall be awarded two extra minutes thinking time.

d. The decision of the arbiter shall be final relating to 10.2 a, b, c.


What is so bad about this rule that it requires the USCF to write their own version (with some bogus Class C vs. Master 10% chance of losing definition)?

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