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Originally posted by philidor positionok, i have tried in vain to use the analogy of the difference between traditional art and modern art. the mere imitation of nature and the will of the individual to impose himself on his immediate environment.
I love Kramnik's style, but I can understand why people find him boring. However, when you say Anand's play is "equally as bland", then you may be contradicting yourself, because Anand's style is the most tactical one around the current top players, and probably #3 in history of chess champions (after Tal and Kasparov).
you should realize that o would have very little chance (if any) against the well-prepared strong players of today.
Did you follow the last world championship series? Anand v Kramnik? was there beauty present? perhaps you would like to point it out? In fact, i challenge you to produce one beautiful Kramnik game!
Kramnik lost because Anand went to great lengths to pull him out of book, early on. How you can state with such certainty that Morphy would have very little chance given the same resources almost begs belief and is as ludicrous as comparing a self portrait of Rembrandt with a Seurat landscape. Art is art, in which ever period it is expressed!
Morphys chess is beautiful, deny it you cannot!
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Originally posted by Nowakowskiendings smendings, checkmate wins the game!
I feel rather certain the chess talent present in Kasparov is on a whole
seperate level than in Morphy. This is all nearly void anyway, as in my
mind the greatest player to ever live, has been called many times,
the greatest endings player to ever live.
Seems like a simple correlation.
-GIN
18 Sep 09
'Kramnik'
He appears dull and his name Kramnik (as in cramming on openings)
does not do him any favours. He looks like a school teacher.
All these guys are really excellent chess players but 'brilliant' I reserve
for Kasparov, Fischer, Alekhine Tal and or course Morphy.
Why do the crowd moan about Kramnik and Anand?
To get under the skin of Kramnik's and Anands games you have
to be prepared to do some work to be shown the nuance in the
position and then have the ability to understand what they were up to.
Chess players are far to lazy for that.
Kasparov, Fischer, Alekhine, Tal and Morphy. Give us beautiful games
where we can see and understand what is happening.
When presented with some sac sac mate positions, , we can even play
like them.
It's typical human nature.
What we understand - we like.
What we dont understand - we fear and call names at.
We are just people and that's all we can be.
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieperfection is beuty. That is so for endgames as well as checkmates or stalemates or openings. Chess is beutifull from start to finish, there is not one part better than another. You can produce a brilliant mate, but another produces a brilliant endgame, there is no way to say one is better than another. Let me add, there are brilliant wins, but brilliant draws and even brilliant defeats as well.
endings smendings, checkmate wins the game!
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by heinzkatok, ok, the dude can play chess! say nae mare, say nae mare! 🙂
Vladimir Kramnik, this man can play chess.
[pgn][Event "Ch URS (young masters)"]
[Site "Kherson (Ukraine)"]
[Date "1991.??.??"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Michail Brodsky"]
[Black "Vladimir Kramnik"]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e5 6. Ndb5 d6 7. Bg5 a6 8. Na3 b5 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nd5 f5 11. Bd3 Be6 12. Qh5 Rg8 13. O-O-O Rxg2 14. f ...[text shortened]... b1 Qa5 27. Nd5+ Bxd5 28. Qxd4 Ra1+ 29. Kc2 Rxd1 30. Qxd1 Qa4+ 31. Kc3 Qc4# 0-1[/pgn]
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThen feel free to enjoy 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Bf5 5.Nc5 Qc7 6.Bd3 Bxd3 7.Nxd3 Nd7 8.Bf4 Qb6 9.Nf3 f6 10.0-0 0-0-0 11.a4 Re8 12.a5 Qd8 13.Re1 g5 14.Bg3 h5 15.h4 g4 16.Nd2 Nh6 17.Nc4 Nf5 18.a6 b5 19.Na5 Qb6 20.Nc5 Nxg3 21.Re6 Nb8 22.fxg3 Rd8 23.c3 Rd6 24.Qe2 Rxe6 25.Qxe6+ Kc7 26.b4 Zugzwang in the middle!
endings smendings, checkmate wins the game!
26. ...Rh6 27.Qg8 Nxa6 28.Qxf8 Rh7 29.Nxc6 Nxc5 30.bxc5 Qxc6 31.Rxa7+ Qb7 32.Rxb7+ Kxb7 33.Qg8 Rh6 34.Qg7 Rh8 35.Qxh8 1-0
😵
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by orion25we bow, such wisdom is worthy of it!
perfection is beuty. That is so for endgames as well as checkmates or stalemates or openings. Chess is beutifull from start to finish, there is not one part better than another. You can produce a brilliant mate, but another produces a brilliant endgame, there is no way to say one is better than another. Let me add, there are brilliant wins, but brilliant draws and even brilliant defeats as well.
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by black beetlethe illustrious beetles game
Then feel free to enjoy 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Bf5 5.Nc5 Qc7 6.Bd3 Bxd3 7.Nxd3 Nd7 8.Bf4 Qb6 9.Nf3 f6 10.0-0 0-0-0 11.a4 Re8 12.a5 Qd8 13.Re1 g5 14.Bg3 h5 15.h4 g4 16.Nd2 Nh6 17.Nc4 Nf5 18.a6 b5 19.Na5 Qb6 20.Nc5 Nxg3 21.Re6 Nb8 22.fxg3 Rd8 23.c3 Rd6 24.Qe2 Rxe6 25.Qxe6+ Kc7 26.b4 Zugzwang in the middle!
26. ...Rh6 27.Qg8 Nxa6 28.Qxf8 Rh7 29.Nxc6 Nxc5 30.bxc5 Qxc6 31.Rxa7+ Qb7 32.Rxb7+ Kxb7 33.Qg8 Rh6 34.Qg7 Rh8 35.Qxh8 1-0
😵
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by black beetleactually today i was thinking about the void beetle, i will post a little comment in spirituality forum to test my variation, if you dont mind 🙂
Passion flowers of our hearts are ultra amazing, but I would definately take a ride up there at 93 Hope Street too😵
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't mind at all ye lang leggedy beastie😵
actually today i was thinking about the void beetle, i will post a little comment in spirituality forum to test my variation, if you dont mind 🙂
and the abv mentioned game that you kindly presented is a Big Bobby's blitz against an amateur who finally saw his Black chessmen tied down on the spot like a pretzel -I remember nothing else regarding that game😵
18 Sep 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobiesorry but that's plain dumb. you're not worth anyone's time.
Did you follow the last world championship series? Anand v Kramnik? was there beauty present? perhaps you would like to point it out? In fact, i challenge you to produce one beautiful Kramnik game!