Originally posted by bassoI believe Kasparov entirely! In searching to equate the power of technology with the power of the human spirit, we will (and I feel this in my heart) discover that the human spirit has no measure. 🙂 God bless us all.
Kasparov weighed in on this a few months ago on the Charlie Rose show. He said that humans would always be able to beat computers because computers will always lack an essential quality of good chess-playing that humans have -- intuition.
chess is not infinite
it IS finite but the numbers involved are so astronimical there are more move variations in a game of chess than there are atoms in the universe . it theoretically could be solved, but so far in the future that to all intents and purposes it is unsolvable when speaking in real terms.but i could be wrong . i mean im a patser
Originally posted by BowmannKeep in mind that not all possible chess variations need to be calculated. As games develop the amount of "correct" (best) moves and the response to these moves decreases immensely. In the future, computers will be unbeatable for this reason. Drawing is the most humans will be able to accomplish against computers.
Solving chess in perhaps just a few trillion years 😵
Originally posted by Balla88Keep in mind that there is a large number involved to start with. And so a small percentage of it will be astronomical all the same.
Keep in mind that not all possible chess variations need to be calculated. As games develop the amount of "correct" (best) moves and the response to these moves decreases immensely.
Originally posted by BowmannAgain, the amount of good moves and their possible responses are not astronomical. If they were so astronomical, computers wouldn't already be as good as they were already. Some computer programs use simple brute force algorithms for their engine and they still win against all but the Grand Masters. Perhaps you don't understand how powerful quantum computers would be.
Keep in mind that there is a large number involved to start with. And so a small percentage of it will be astronomical all the same.
Originally posted by Balla88What calculated to be the best move from analysis to 10 ply ahead would not necessarily be for 11 ply.
And I'm telling you that solving chess doesn't mean finding all possible variations.
You would have to find all possible variations to be able to know the best move every single time right to the end of the game to solve chess.