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15 Mar 07

Originally posted by ih8sens
WOW.. i never even saw that. i think that's a won game from that position wow

if he plays well he doesn't lose right away but he's a pretty rough position and you just have to pressure on! That's what i see anyway!

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bugs me to no end that my tactical ineptitude kills me so often.

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15 Mar 07

Originally posted by omulcusobolani
And what do you plan to do after 13Qc3?

13 Qc3 Bxb2+
14 Qxb2 Qxb2+
15 Kxb2 Rb8+

Doesn't this look ok for black? I think this is best play from both parts and if white blundered game won for sure.

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15 Mar 07

Originally posted by adam warlock
13 Qc3 Bxb2+
14 Qxb2 Qxb2+
15 Kxb2 Rb8+

Doesn't this look ok for black? I think this is best play from both parts and if white blundered game won for sure.

How is blundering a bishop best play for black?12...Ba3 this move doesn't loose but it achieves nothing for black after Qc3. Qc3 Qxc3 Nxc3 B somewhere or Qc3 Be7 Qxf6 looks best and black has a roughly equal position, maybe slightly better due to the bishop pair.

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15 Mar 07

Originally posted by omulcusobolani
How is blundering a bishop best play for black?12...Ba3 this move doesn't loose but it achieves nothing for black after Qc3. Qc3 Qxc3 Nxc3 B somewhere or Qc3 Be7 Qxf6 looks best and black has a roughly equal position, maybe slightly better due to the bishop pair.

12 Ba3 is blundering a bishop? why do you say that?

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Originally posted by adam warlock
12 Ba3 is blundering a bishop? why do you say that?

If properly defended, it IS an unsound sacrifice.. but from that position forcing a draw if the sac. fails wouldn't be impossible anyways.

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Originally posted by adam warlock
12 Ba3 is blundering a bishop? why do you say that?

I was talking about the line you gave as best play after 13.Qc3... Bxb2+ is blundering a bishop, 12..Ba3 is just a pointless move.

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Originally posted by omulcusobolani
I was talking about the line you gave as best play after 13.Qc3... Bxb2+ is blundering a bishop, 12..Ba3 is just a pointless move.

ok. i see you are both right. Your response to Qc3 is the best one and after the knight move black doesn't seem that much better.

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15 Mar 07

Originally posted by omulcusobolani
And what do you plan to do after 13Qc3?

...or c3

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1 edit

what about 18 Rb3+ for black?

Edit: unsound too...