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Would playing through games at chessgames.com make me improve?

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greenpawn34

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I co-authored a book with him.....Never met him!

I recall the 'incident' I suspect there was possibly something deeper than
just a few lines about a book he wrote. This just brought it to the surface.

Some....No.....All Chess players store fueds like a squirrel stores nuts.
Every now and then they go and dig it up just to make sure it's still there.

'The Dynamic Reti' that's an oxymoron. 🙂 (old joke).

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Originally posted by greenpawn34


'The Dynamic Reti' that's an oxymoron. 🙂 (old joke).
When Kasparov HAD to win against Karpov just to tie and retain the title, he turned to the Reti. 😉

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Hi all,

I read this interesting snippet in a chesscafe.com review of GM Tukmakov's Modern Chess Preparation:

'After the first chapter, "The Evolution of Preparation," Tukmakov
exhorts the amateur to "study the classics," by playing out (on a real
board) games of the old masters annotated by the old masters
themselves. If you are starting out your chess education, he says you
ought to study the games of the virtuosos of simple and logical play,
focusing on the rules rather than the exceptions. Consequently, he
recommends "the games of Capablanca not Alekhine, Botvinnik not Bronstein, and Karpov not Kasparov"

I thought the last line was a very interesting idea, worthy of discussion

greenpawn34

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""the games of Capablanca not Alekhine, Botvinnik not Bronstein, and Karpov not Kasparov"

I'd go along with that though I can think of quite a few Alekhine games
that would benefit the student.
I'd also add Rubinstein and Tartakower, especially Tartakower's notes.

When Bronstein was in the mood he went to places on the chessboard only a few mortals can go.
Kasparov is a genius, add Tal another whose games would go over most players heads (mine included.)
His games you just enjoy. Trying to emulate them could be soul destroying.

byedidia
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As an amateur I wonder, "Where does Fischer fall on that spectrum?"

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Originally posted by byedidia
As an amateur I wonder, "Where does Fischer fall on that spectrum?"
This is a modified annotated Fischer game from a "book" I have been working on about Fischer's games in the King's Indian Attack.

I think it is one of those games that a new player or inexperienced amateur player would struggle with unless there was an explanation to accompany it.

I took out all the line variations to try to make the pgn viewer work better, but I am still struggling with it. I have ordered new glasses but they have not come in yet!


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Originally posted by Paul Leggett
This is a modified annotated Fischer game from a "book" I have been working on about Fischer's games in the King's Indian Attack.

I think it is one of those games that a new player or inexperienced amateur player would struggle with unless there was an explanation to accompany it.

I took out all the line variations to try to make the pgn viewer ...[text shortened]... ss move" with an exclam.} 37. Be8 $1 Kg8 38. Bxf7+ $1 {
Deflection: f7} Qxf7 39. Qxd6 1-0[/pgn]

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Thank you very much!

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
I co-authored a book with him.....Never met him!

I recall the 'incident' I suspect there was possibly something deeper than
just a few lines about a book he wrote. This just brought it to the surface.

Some....No.....All Chess players store fueds like a squirrel stores nuts.
Every now and then they go and dig it up just to make sure it's still there.

'The Dynamic Reti' that's an oxymoron. 🙂 (old joke).
This behaviour seems to transcend language, culture, and religion.

I suuppose it is part of our international chess culture. It does make for interesting reading!

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Originally posted by Marc Benford
Hello.

I'm a 1700 Elo player and I wondered if looking at super-GMs games without analyzing them at http://www.chessgames.com/ would be usefull or would only be a waste of time. And I'm just talking about playing through the games very fast (taking only approximately a minute per game), without thinking at all.

Since I'm a Caro-Kann player, I coul ...[text shortened]... ake me almost 5 hours.
Would that make me improve a lot?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
No. Absolutely no use at all, what so ever.
It's just rewinding a good film on dvd or watching only a trailer.

It's killing time (as if time does not kill us), like reading amusing articles over muffins & coffee. Thoe games, covered with muffin crumbles, will give you an false impression that you "figured something out" from a strong player, but a soon as you sit alon over the table you ar at mercy of your own play-level.

Improving in chess takes time and studying typical positions, endgames, pawn structures. Everyone likes only "illustrating games" at the ends of those "boring" chapters, I know that. It's boring like practicing flute.

Playing through GM's games fast and furious, just for fun, is only fun. You cannot become better soccer player by watching video "Gary Lineker's all goals in 1986" or something.

It's only for muffins&coffee.
(Or beer, who knows?)

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What about watching Youtube videos of blitz games played and commented by a NM or an IM? Would that make me improve a lot?

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