Originally posted by chasparosyou are ignoring the most fundimental concept of calculus: the application of the 'limit' principal to the slope of the secant.
I'll throw something in here.
Firstly assume this:
We as the observers defines movement. Relative motion
does only complicate things.
Lets agree that velocity is change in position per time unit.
This means that if you look at the scene frosen in a single
instant no movement ever occurs. A velocity of zero can therefore be sustanied either inde ...[text shortened]... measure a change in position. Thus, speed.
The fly never stops. And the train doesnt either :-)
Originally posted by ark13The train doesn't stop!
No, that's incorrect. Since the fly's velocity is changing 180 degrees, there's a time in which the fly is completely stationary. It's a very short time, but we know it's there, because of the knowledge that accelerations don't happen instantaniously.
Which part of the fly stops? Its face or its ass, which are now accelerating toward each other?
I don't think the fly stops either.
The qustion now seems to be if an boject make a 180 degree of direction, does it stop?
Another similar question is if a piston in a combustion engine ever stops as the engine runs? Remember, it is directly connected to a crank moving in an endless circle!
So motion is some kinda paradox, or whatever.
If you what to be technical about is nothing EVER stops, even if you sit on your ass like a stone, you are falling (orbiting) toward the sun.
scale the logic either way.