GM crops

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Dude you cannot tell the difference between oats and barley, you are wired to the moon.

We don't grow either in Zambia. Never seen either in a field.
Would you recognise sorghum if you saw it in the field?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no there is not, you could drink a beer a day and feel no adverse effects, you are slobbering again.

You wouldn't feel adverse effect, but you would suffer from them. Learn to use google and do some research. Alcohol is really bad for you.

Originally posted by twhitehead
We don't grow either in Zambia. Never seen either in a field.
Would you recognise sorghum if you saw it in the field?

sorghum, probably not. I did see a Chinese film though called Red sorghum, it was about wine making.

Originally posted by twhitehead
You wouldn't feel adverse effect, but you would suffer from them. Learn to use google and do some research. Alcohol is really bad for you.

British beer is typically 3-5 percent alcohol, its good and natural and healthy and tasty!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Please read this an educate yourself.

Read it yourself. From your own post:

Genetic changes can be induced by chemical or radiation treatments. A famous variety produced in this way (by γ rays) was Golden Promise.

Genetic modification. GM for short. Science.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
British beer is typically 3-5 percent alcohol, its good and natural and healthy and tasty!

And causes cancer, amongst other things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer

In general, these risks increase after about one daily drink for women and two daily drinks for men. (A drink is defined as 12 ounces of regular beer...

Originally posted by twhitehead
Read it yourself. From your own post:

Genetic changes can be induced by chemical or radiation treatments. A famous variety produced in this way (by γ rays) was Golden Promise.

Genetic modification. GM for short. Science.

Dude that was way back in the forties when we let mad scientists loose, now we reel them in. 😵

Originally posted by twhitehead
And causes cancer, amongst other things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_cancer

people who don't drink also get cancer, another false equivalence.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Dude that was way back in the forties when we let mad scientists loose, now we reel them in. 😵

It was still GM and it was still science and it was still not 'natural' or 'traditional'. You're busted. Live with it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
people who don't drink also get cancer, another false equivalence.

You are too stupid to understand apparently.

People who don't drink insecticide also get cancer. See how stupid your argument is?

Originally posted by twhitehead
You are too stupid to understand apparently.

People who don't drink insecticide also get cancer. See how stupid your argument is?

I have a rating in a game which requires deductive logic almost 300 ELO points higher than you. Please be careful when using the term stupid.

Originally posted by twhitehead
It was still GM and it was still science and it was still not 'natural' or 'traditional'. You're busted. Live with it.

but I am not averse to GM crops per se and I have provided the criteria by which crops may be evaluated, its simply because you have a rather childish black and white perspective that you have assumed that I am against all GM crops. Perhaps if you were not so self assuming you may do better.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have a rating in a game which requires deductive logic almost 300 ELO points higher than you. Please be careful when using the term stupid.

Sorry, but that is not how chess works.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
.... that you have assumed that I am against all GM crops.

That you wish to paint GM crops in a bad light even if you have to make stuff up is obvious.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
British beer is typically 3-5 percent alcohol, its good and natural and healthy and tasty!

No, it certainly isn't healthy.
A rabid wild animal is also 'natural', might even be 'testy'; doesn't mean it is good for you.
The adverse health effects of drinking of alcohol are well researched and documented and it is easy enough for you to look that up for yourself if you are at all curious about the truth, which you clearly are not here.

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-alcohol-related-deaths-years-lost-sxsw-20140313-story.html
"...About 88,000 U.S. deaths each year traced to alcohol use,..."

And you would have to be completely stupid to think that the alcohol in beer is 'healthy' which the alcohol in other drinks is not; same chemical; same effect.

http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/publications/global_alcohol_report/msbgsruprofiles.pdf

There is a big myth going around that moderate drinking is good for you. This is based on flawed small scale studies that have been debunked by more rigorous scientific analysis that separates out all other causal factors;

http://www.jsad.com/doi/abs/10.15288/jsad.2016.77.185

and clearly there are some health risks for even moderate drinking esp with the risk of cancer.