22 Jul 18
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The post that was quoted here has been removedOn another note, have you heard of or done work in this field:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-octonion-math-that-could-underpin-physics-20180720/
Octions, heard of it, worked on it?
About cheaters, why do you think they stopped enforcing it?
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22 Jul 18
Originally posted by @sonhouseAn oction?
On another note, have you heard of or done work in this field:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-octonion-math-that-could-underpin-physics-20180720/
Octions, heard of it, worked on it?
About cheaters, why do you think they stopped enforcing it?
Isn't that what they'll be having at Mara Lago and at Trump Tower a few years from now?
A voluntary bidding sale of all of Donald's valuables?
(Option + Auction = ???)
Oction
😛
22 Jul 18
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Originally posted by @wolfe63No, ocTONian. Like the 8 notes on the white keys of a piano🙂
An oction?
Isn't that what they'll be having at Mara Lago and at Trump Tower a few years from now?
A voluntary bidding sale of all of Donald's valuables?
(Option + Auction = ???)
Oction
😛
22 Jul 18
Originally posted by @sonhouseI've played around with quaternions, they are a useful way of describing rotations and the unit quaternions are isomorphic with SU(2) (the symmetry that is broken to give the weak force). Octonions are the next largest objects one can construct by choosing pairs of the previous objects, so complex numbers are pairs of normal reals, quaternions are pairs of complex numbers, octonions are pairs of quaternions, see Cayley-Dickson construction in Wikipedia for how this works (link below). These objects aren't even associative, but it's not surprising that someone should try to apply them to physics.
On another note, have you heard of or done work in this field:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-octonion-math-that-could-underpin-physics-20180720/
Octions, heard of it, worked on it?
About cheaters, why do you think they stopped enforcing it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayley-Dickson_construction
23 Jul 18
Originally posted by @deepthoughtI wonder if there would be anything in another doubling? 16 somethings🙂 Don't even know what you would call it and would it even buy anything.
I've played around with quaternions, they are a useful way of describing rotations and the unit quaternions are isomorphic with SU(2) (the symmetry that is broken to give the weak force). Octonions are the next largest objects one can construct by choosing pairs of the previous objects, so complex numbers are pairs of normal reals, quaternions are pair ...[text shortened]... hould try to apply them to physics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayley-Dickson_construction
23 Jul 18
Originally posted by @sonhouseThey're called sedenions.
I wonder if there would be anything in another doubling? 16 somethings🙂 Don't even know what you would call it and would it even buy anything.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedenion
23 Jul 18
Originally posted by @deepthoughtWow, I saw that bizarre multiplication table! Sounds a bit like string theory, nice work but not much in the real world.
They're called sedenions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedenion
24 Jul 18
Originally posted by @sonhouseThis part of your post I totally buy into. Any "tooting your own horn", even a little, drives those without the talent to do the same absolutely nuts and they are always driven to "prove" you a liar. It's sad.
But just the act of mentioning that kind of thing makes us both out to be braggarts when I was just mentioning stuff I did as a kid. Like what I did was so special as to be the subject of the trolls who think anyone mentioning anything out of the ordinary is to be narcissistic or some such. Such is life for the trolls.
24 Jul 18
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Originally posted by @suzianneThe sad part is what I did when I was ten wasn't that big a deal. I just found a room in my step dad's house that had literally hundreds of old 78 RPM records but no way to play them.
This part of your post I totally buy into. Any "tooting your own horn", even a little, drives those without the talent to do the same absolutely nuts and they are always driven to "prove" you a liar. It's sad.
So one day I was scrounging around that room, nobody else was interested in it, I suspect it was his dad, because his mom was still living in the house and the only thing she was interested in was watching wrestling on TV.
So one day I found a 78 RPM record player, motorized but no case or anything. I plugged it in and found the platter turned and such but no way to hear the sound.
So I had traded a model airplane motor for an earphone and a diode, I had just started getting interested in electronics and a couple years earlier at hospital, built a little radio that worked when I turned it on. This is not exactly Nobel prize stuff🙂
So I looked at the record player and saw a cartridge with wires coming out of it.
I thought, hmm, what if I hooked up the wires of the cartridge to the wires of the earphones and I did, put the record player on a cardboard box and lo and behold, I could actually hear the records through the earphones. I then went through about half of the collection which really spiked my interest in music. I think I told you I compose tunes on guitar and mandolin, I don't think you ever listened to them but it is kind of the other end of my experience with the record player when I was ten.
So for all that, I was castigated, stupid liar, no kid could have ever figured out something as esoteric as that.....