07 Oct 12
Originally posted by humyNot to keep beating a dead horse but:
EMP shielding was tried in a specially built aircraft flown a few hundred miles from an actual H bomb test.
no point in shielding against the powerful pulses from H-bombs -only natural sources. If the H-bombs started falling, we would be all screwed anyway so what would be the point?
Do you see the lack of EMP shielding against th ...[text shortened]... cuitry are not current-based. Not sure but I think they might not even need any EMP shielding!
why cannot EMP shielding be designed without cracks? I believe you wrote,
If there are no cracks, how do you suppose you would get inside? You can certainly make a skin shaped like an egg with no cracks and it would float real nice but how do you get inside?
08 Oct 12
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Originally posted by sonhouseWhy would you need to “get inside” the AI brain electrically in a way that would allow EMP to get through?
Not to keep beating a dead horse but:
why cannot EMP shielding be designed without cracks? I believe you wrote,
If there are no cracks, how do you suppose you would get inside? You can certainly make a skin shaped like an egg with no cracks and it would float real nice but how do you get inside?
For starters, the batteries and the power cables for the AI can, if absolutely necessary, be enclosed within the same EMP shield that encloses the AI brain although I am not sure if that would really be necessary -there are perfectly adequate alternative ways of blocking the electrical interference that may travel down the power cables. So, if really necessary, no need for power cables or wires going through the shield.
Have you looked at a microwave oven door? It allows light through so that you can see inside but blocks both microwaves and radio waves and therefore blocks EMP .
So the EMP shield for the AI brain can be very easily be made to allow light signals to go through it both ways to allow the option of the AI to interact with the external world optically if absolutely necessary and do so without allowing EMP to leak in.
The holes in the metal grid on a microwave oven door could be seen to be like “cracks” in the shield and yet they do not allow leakage of the relevant radiation. The same kind of holes can be put in any EMP shield without compromising its EMP blocking power -and usually are! Most perfectly effective EMP shield are designed with at least one hole and without allowing EMP to leak in far enough inside to effect the enclosed components.
08 Oct 12
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Originally posted by mikelom
And what happens to the drunkard who gets into his AI car, and it crashes? 😛
AI could become an excuse for not being in control of the vehicle, could it not?
-m.
AI could become an excuse for not being in control of the vehicle, could it not?
Isn't that a bit like saying that seat belts could be used as an 'excuse' for not flying through the windscreen?
Surely is would not be an “excuse” to “ not being in control of the vehicle” but rather be “the whole point”!?
Isn't the whole point of having an AI to drive the vehicle to make sure the human is not in control of the vehicle to stop him causing accidents?
09 Oct 12
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Originally posted by KewpieI would think that the AI driven cars of the future would be designed so that it is impossible for anyone to interfere with the automatic procedure of the car unless the car designers are idiots!
Of course driverless cars have onboard technology documenting the whole process - it should become easier rather than harder to convict a drunk driver who's interfered with the automatic procedure.
But it would still be good for all such driverless cars to have a black box flight recorder ( or some equivalent ) just in case something does go horribly wrong.
11 Oct 12
Originally posted by humyYou underestimate the power of EMP to penetrate weak defenses like microwave doors. Those techniques reduce the level leaving the door for sure but they are still there and can be measured, of course in a microwave oven, the level of energy is more like microwatt or milliwatt levels outside the box but it is not perfect.
Why would you need to “get inside” the AI brain electrically in a way that would allow EMP to get through?
For starters, the batteries and the power cables for the AI can, if absolutely necessary, be enclosed within the same EMP shield that encloses the AI brain although I am not sure if that would really be necessary -there are perfectly adequate alter ...[text shortened]... ne hole and without allowing EMP to leak in far enough inside to effect the enclosed components.
The US air force built a skin within a skin in an attempt to shield sensitive electronics from EMP but the stuff got through in a simulated A bomb attack. Maybe Graphene would do the trick but that's a few decades off for large scale stuff for sure.
11 Oct 12
Originally posted by sonhouseHow do you sleep at night, worrying about all the things you worry about?
You underestimate the power of EMP to penetrate weak defenses like microwave doors. Those techniques reduce the level leaving the door for sure but they are still there and can be measured, of course in a microwave oven, the level of energy is more like microwatt or milliwatt levels outside the box but it is not perfect.
The US air force built a skin wit ...[text shortened]... Maybe Graphene would do the trick but that's a few decades off for large scale stuff for sure.