What happened to Africa?

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
Yes dear, they're called 'theories'.

Name one that was thought up without any evidence.

Originally posted by Palynka
Name one that was thought up without any evidence.

OK, let's try and stay on track. How about the theory of evolution?

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
OK, let's try and stay on track. How about the theory of evolution?

What about it? Darwin thought about it after he saw evidence of it during his travels.

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
Yes dear, they're called 'theories'.

Do you think a 'theory' (scientifically speaking) is a mere guessing?
Like 'atomic theory' is not true, it's just a guessing?
Like 'integration theory' is not true, it's just a guessing?
Like 'Field theory' is not true, it's just a guessing?

I don't think you know the scientific explanation of what 'theory' really is. You are just guessing. That's my theory.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
I don't think you know the scientific explanation of what 'theory' really is. You are just guessing. That's my theory.

And you have evidence for it! 😀

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Do you think a 'theory' (scientifically speaking) is a mere guessing?
Like 'atomic theory' is not true, it's just a guessing?
Like 'integration theory' is not true, it's just a guessing?
Like 'Field theory' is not true, it's just a guessing?

I don't think you know the scientific explanation of what 'theory' really is. You are just guessing. That's my theory.

the⋅o⋅ry:
6. contemplation or speculation.
7. guess or conjecture.

www.dictionary.com

What's your point?

I think you are confusing evidence with observations.

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
I think you are confusing evidence with observations.

Nope. You're the one confusing evidence with proof.

Originally posted by Palynka
What about it? Darwin thought about it after he saw evidence of it during his travels.

No, Darwin made observations during his travels with which he concluded a theory.

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
No, Darwin made observations during his travels with which he concluded a theory.

Observations are evidence.

Originally posted by Palynka
And you have evidence for it! 😀

No, I used it unscientifically.

That's the difficulty. People use it unscientifically, like in 'I have a theory' meaning ' My guess (more or less qualified) is...'. But when a scientist use it scientifically, it means "We have evidence to believe that ...". Like 'atomic theory' that is more or less fully proven, only details remain.

But of course, even scientists can use it unscientifically. But another scientist know when it is 'well founded theory' or a 'mere guessing'. The problem is when the 'evolution theory' is taken as a mere guessing, often by creationists who have no or little experience of the scientific theory really means.

I'm glad you got my little joke. I don't think everyone got it. I mixed the two explanations of 'theory' as a joke. 🙂

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
the⋅o⋅ry:
6. contemplation or speculation.
7. guess or conjecture.

www.dictionary.com

What's your point?

I think you are confusing evidence with observations.

Didn't you read:
"1. a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity."
from your own link?

Originally posted by Palynka
Nope. You're the one confusing evidence with proof.

No, a theory with proof is called a 'fact'.
A noun that I can see has eluded you for some time...

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Didn't you read:
"1. a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity."
from your own link?

Yes and those classes of phenomena can either be observations or evidence.

But obviously you cannot have evidence without first making observations
(although some do try).

Originally posted by Thequ1ck
No, a theory with proof is called a 'fact'.
A noun that I can see has eluded you for some time...

Try to keep up will you?

The question is how can you justify that observations are not evidence, not what proven theories are called.

So try again.

Originally posted by Palynka
Try to keep up will you?

The question is how can you justify that observations are not evidence, not what proven theories are called.

So try again.

I love it when they squirm.