Spirituality
01 Jan 12
Originally posted by NickstenDear FSM you Theists have trouble with English.
Can you prove him wrong?
If not, accept the fact that people believe different things, it is part of the growing up phase or did you skip the "pre-school" level to understand the basic logic that two people are different.
Re-read my posts with your brain switched on please,
They are really not that hard to comprehend.
Originally posted by googlefudgeHave I missed something....
Dear FSM you Theists have trouble with English.
Re-read my posts with your brain switched on please,
They are really not that hard to comprehend.
I am not FSM and if it stands for something else, maybe you really did skip pre-school or what?
Originally posted by googlefudgeInsult??? its the equivalent of General Grievous calling Anakin Skywalker, 'Jedi scum!'
I have no god I'm an Atheist you.... Theist! (hay found an insult I can actually use)
I was talking (as Penguin says) about the pathetically low standards YOU set for YOUR god.
Originally posted by RJHindsYou believe in god, (specifically your version of the Christian god(s)).
He probably thought, like I did, that you were referring to the only
professed theist on this forum, FMF. I am a Christian.
This means you are a theist, someone who believes in a god or gods.
This is irrefutably so by definition.
The word is defined to mean someone who believes in god or gods.
You do believe in a god, thus you are a theist.
You are also a Christian, Specifically Southern Baptist?
This is not in any conflict with you being a theist.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's the equivalent of anyone using the label of the 'other side' as an insult, at any time or place in history.
Insult??? its the equivalent of General Grievous calling Anakin Skywalker, 'Jedi scum!'
A good example would be the use of atheist as an insult....
In this case this would be me trying to find a word I can use (that this site lets me) that encompasses the
exasperation I feel at those who abandon all logic and reason and cease to value evidence and observation
in favour of fairy tales and wishful thinking while wasting their lives in honour of the goblin king while trying
to get everyone else to do it and persecuting those that don't....
And I suddenly discovered that there was a word that encompassed all that.
Theist.
I am an Atheist, and I am one for a reason, and the things that I value that make me an atheist are the things
that all theists must abandon to be a theist.
Thus Theist is the word that accurately targets the specific thing I dislike, and nothing else.
Put it this way, I hate smoking, the smell of the cigarettes, no the stench of the cigarettes, makes me choke, the
smoke makes it hard to breath, and that's before you get to the health issues.
However I know some perfectly lovely smokers, with whom I am friends.
I think their smoking is idiotic, but calling them an idiot impunes more than just the thing I object to.
In the same way, any insult levelled at someone for being a theist, for throwing away reason and evidence, for
all the ills of religion, will inevitably imply defects of character or behaviour beyond the religious/theistic ones that I
am aiming at.
All but one, the one word that hits only what I am aiming at is the label for what it is I object to. Theist/theism itself.
So, Yes I use Theist as an insult. In much the same way as many theists use Atheism as an insult.
And in much the same way as I wear Atheist as a badge of honour, I have no doubt those who I call Theist will wear that
with equal pride.
But it's the only word I can think of that only attacks those things I actually want to attack. At least from my point of view.
Originally posted by googlefudgeI would accept Monotheist. Theist is too broad a category that includes Satan.
You believe in god, (specifically your version of the Christian god(s)).
This means you are a theist, someone who believes in a god or gods.
This is irrefutably so by definition.
The word is defined to mean someone who believes in god or gods.
You do believe in a god, thus you are a theist.
You are also a Christian, Specifically Southern Baptist?
This is not in any conflict with you being a theist.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritYour argument is based on your own ignorance and lack of understanding
satan is a part of your religion, and you're not a monotheist. the jews are monotheists. the muslims are monothiests. you're a polytheist.
of God in Christianity. You are somewhat like the JWs.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Monotheists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat you are prepared to accept is irrelevant.
I would accept Monotheist. Theist is too broad a category that includes Satan.
You are a theist by definition.
Complaining that theist is to broad a label, or is not specific enough would be like you
complaining that American is too broad a label because it also included democrats,
Or that Human is too broad a label because it includes Muslims...
You are a theist, whether you are also a monotheist is debatable, but I don't care enough
to debate it.
Originally posted by googlefudgeOkay, stop posting about it then.
What you are prepared to accept is irrelevant.
You are a theist by definition.
Complaining that theist is to broad a label, or is not specific enough would be like you
complaining that American is too broad a label because it also included democrats,
Or that Human is too broad a label because it includes Muslims...
You are a theist, whether you are also a monotheist is debatable, but I don't care enough
to debate it.