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@suzianne said
Now imagine that this Uzbeki man was actually the Son of God in the flesh.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the Messiah is still awaited by the Jews, and my writing - in the circumstances that it was produced - is a claim that the Uzbeki is that awaited figure.

@fmf said
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the Messiah is still awaited by the Jews, and my writing - in the circumstances that it was produced - is a claim that the Uzbeki is that awaited figure.

Loads of imposters have tried to replicate the Christ and failed. I have a feeling your Uzbeki dude will be no different.

@dj2becker said
Loads of imposters have tried to replicate the Christ and failed. I have a feeling your Uzbeki dude will be no different.

The thought experiment is about the circumstances in which the evidence came to light.

@fmf said
The thought experiment is about the circumstances in which the evidence came to light.

Unless he performed actual miracles, actually died and was actually shown to be dead and was actually raised from the dead and appeared to hundreds of witnesses, I doubt the ‘evidence’ would hold much traction. Especially if everything that happened was prophecied thousands of years before.

@dj2becker said
Unless he performed actual miracles, actually died and was actually shown to be dead and was actually raised from the dead and appeared to hundreds of witnesses

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that my account of the Uzbeki "Messiah" made specific claims about such things.

@fmf said
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that my account of the Uzbeki "Messiah" made specific claims about such things.

If it is all a fabrication I doubt it would gather much momentum before it’s shown to be a farce.

@dj2becker said
Especially if everything that happened was prophecied thousands of years before.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that I wove aspects of centuries' old scriptures into my account.

@dj2becker said
If it is all a fabrication I doubt it would gather much momentum before it’s shown to be a farce.

"Shown to be a farce" several decades after the figure in the story died?

@dj2becker said
If it is all a fabrication I doubt it would gather much momentum before it’s shown to be a farce.

I am not saying it's written as a "fabrication". As the writer, I would believe 100% in what I was writing.

@fmf said
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that I wove aspects of centuries' old scriptures into my account.

By ‘wove’ you mean it actually happened or you made it up?

@fmf said
I am not saying it's written as a "fabrication". As the writer, I would believe 100% in what I was writing.

As the writer you and other people witnessed the same thing first hand and all your accounts match up?

@dj2becker said
By ‘wove’ you mean it actually happened or you made it up?

I mean the writer in the OP was familiar with the literature and the connections he made to it in his writing were part of what made him believe the account he was telling was true.

@dj2becker said
As the writer you and other people witnessed the same thing first hand and all your accounts match up?

Read the OP.

@fmf said
Read the OP.

Thought we had moved past the OP with all your new adaptations.

@fmf said
I mean the writer in the OP was familiar with the literature and the connections he made to it in his writing were part of what made him believe the account he was telling was true.

So everything he wrote down he witnessed first hand or not?