Spirituality
25 Oct 17
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeGod carved out a piece of humanity by selecting Abraham and blessing his offspring, turning them into a nation we can see today. Through them God showed Himself Holy, Righteous, Faithful, and made a way through them we can be saved.
Please evidence that it was the Christian God and not a Hindu God. (And why a Hindu is incorrect if they see creation as observable evidence for the existence of Brahma).
Thanks.
So human history, nature, and a myriad of ways this has been revealed to us.
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayAssertions are not evidence.
God carved out a piece of humanity by selecting Abraham and blessing his offspring, turning them into a nation we can see today. Through them God showed Himself Holy, Righteous, Faithful, and made a way through them we can be saved.
So human history, nature, and a myriad of ways this has been revealed to us.
Btw the abrahamic religions have brought little if anything other that war, pain, misery, child sacrifice, inquisitions, misogony, racism, bigotry, elitelism, more war, more pain and more misery.
Well, there is some charity work done for selfish reasons, kudos for that.
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @apathistI answered the question ignore if you choose to.
Assertions are not evidence.
Btw the abrahamic religions have brought little if anything other that war, pain, misery, child sacrifice, inquisitions, misogony, racism, bigotry, elitelism, more war, more pain and more misery.
Well, there is some charity work done for selfish reasons, kudos for that.
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @apathistAnything brought out is going to be an assertion for crying out loud! I guess nothing is going to be acceptable to you.
No you did not. Asked for evidence, you provided mere assertions.
Look, you have no evidence. This isn't news. It isn't called 'faith belief' because it is so demonstrable.
Originally posted by @sonshipNo. We just ramble on about an ancient Jew , somehow knowing that your organized religion is the right one. When pressed for real evidence 4 many biblical accounts we toften get replies like 'Does everything have to have a scientific explanation ? "
Does everything true have to have a scientific explanation?
Well at least there could be scientific explanations for some biblical stories. Otherwise we just continue on this merry-go-round , eying eachother off year after year, without ever finding any common ground.
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @kellyjayAlways
Always? So it is not billions of years old, and this is science not just a musing about what might have been?
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @josephwThe authority of the great creator who doesn't attempt to prove anything , instead insisting on faith and devotion to the church .
Prove it. I can just as easily say the universe was created. The difference is my assertion is based on the authority of the creator while yours is merely an opinion.
How you reconcile your good (rational )self with with ONLY stories from one old book is beyond me
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @josephwGod is not the universe?/
First tell me how you know the universe is eternal. I mean, that seems a new twist on evolutionary thought. I thought the idea was that all the energy in the universe was compacted in one location and BANG a universe came into existence.
Now it appears you want me to believe the universe has always existed.
Reason and logic. God is eternal, otherwise He's not God.
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @josephwSay it however you want .
It is not my opinion that the universe bears witness of a creator. It is an observable fact. Yours is an opinion that the universe does not bear witness of a creator as evidenced by the fact that by your own admission you don't know the truth about the origin of the universe.
The existence of the universe and life on earth is as a result of matter and information, information from an intelligent being. It's irrational to think otherwise.
Your views remain unsubstantiated opinions no matter how u cut it
Originally posted by @kellyjayReally?
Personally I prefer that we are told how and why.
Gosh Kelly, this paints a very immature picture of you.
I mean of your worldview.
People give you gentle nudges everyday as you ask to be given the how and why.
Is there any chance you might try to connect your god with the rest of the universe?
31 Oct 17
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelThe great unknown where did everything comes from is never going to be answered by man. We can at best give a rational for some idea that sounds good, at least until another rational that sounds better comes because there is always some new idea.
Really?
Gosh Kelly, this paints a very immature picture of you.
I mean of your worldview.
People give you gentle nudges everyday as you ask to be given the how and why.
Is there any chance you might try to connect your god with the rest of the universe?
So I believe we are either in a universe with a purpose which means with cause we are here, or not. With cause means we are here, not just to do what we will, but to do what we were created to do.
So the explanation of the how can only be given to us by the One who created the universe, since none who lives here was around when it occurred.