Originally posted by moonbusAnd nowhere in any of that definition is there "an injunction to make something happen."
Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary Second Ed. (the whacking big library edition): “prophecy: 1. the work, function, vocation of a prophet: utterance under the inspiring influence of religious experience; the utterance of a prophet as recorded. Specif; a. that which is spoken for a god, declaration or interpretation of the will or purpose of a god; esp. Jewish o ...[text shortened]... en so;[/i] only secondarily or “on special occasions” a sort of prediction of something to come.
It seems there is real confusion about the difference between prediction and prophecy.
Example of prediction: 'you will deny me three times before cock crow.'
The meaning is not that Peter should or ought do this, but that he will do it.
Example of prophecy: Zechariah wrote: “Behold, your king comes to you, triumphant and victorious. He is humble and riding on an ass, on a colt the foal of an ass.” And for this reason, because he knew of the prophecy, Jesus asks his disciples to procure for him an ass on which to ride into Jerusalem 'in order that prophecy be fulfilled.' That is, Jesus is making it happen in order that people will see this as a sign that something is not merely happening but ought to be because it is the will of God (as revealed by a prophet in olden times).
EDIT: In the first instance, Peter does not deny Jesus because Jesus has predicted this, nor because it is Jesus's will that this should be so. On the contrary, Peter denies Jesus despite having been warned.
In the second instance, Jesus does what he does because of the prophecy, because that is the will of God (that the king enter humbly into Jerusalem).
Originally posted by RJHindsIf you think the AntiChrist will be Muslim, then you don't understand Revelation at all.
Obama's help to Jihadists is the building of the Antichrist army on earth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Saa-UlPVpYY
The AntiChrist will proclaim himself to be God and demand worship from everyone, Christian and Muslim alike. Muslims will be persecuted in the Great Tribulation just as the Christians will, as will the Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and anyone who does not worship the Beast.
Originally posted by moonbusA prediction can be a prophecy and a prophecy can be a prediction.
It seems there is real confusion about the difference between prediction and prophecy.
Example of prediction: 'you will deny me three times before cock crow.'
The meaning is not that Peter should or ought do this, but that he will do it.
Example of prophecy: Zechariah wrote: “Behold, your king comes to you, triumphant and victorious. H ...[text shortened]... he prophecy, because that is the will of God (that the king enter humbly into Jerusalem).
Originally posted by moonbusSorry, but try as you might, you will not manage to shoe horn what you initially claimed into that definition.
"exhort (verb) very strongly encourage or urge someone to do something." Is that not clear enough?
I have no problem with you assigning your own meaning or understanding to the word, but claiming that your definition is the standard one is just plain dishonest.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI quoted you from a standard dictionary. What more do you want? "Prophecy" and "prediction" are simply not synonyms. Yes, a pawn can be a lump of wood, and yes a lump of wood can be a pawn; but "lump of wood" and "pawn" are still not interchangeable terms.
Sorry, but try as you might, you will not manage to shoe horn what you initially claimed into that definition.
I have no problem with you assigning your own meaning or understanding to the word, but claiming that your definition is the standard one is just plain dishonest.
Originally posted by SuzianneWhat if the Beast is the Muslim Caliphate?
If you think the AntiChrist will be Muslim, then you don't understand Revelation at all.
The AntiChrist will proclaim himself to be God and demand worship from everyone, Christian and Muslim alike. Muslims will be persecuted in the Great Tribulation just as the Christians will, as will the Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and anyone who does not worship the Beast.