11 Oct 11
Originally posted by wolfgang59What a witty post! Rec'd.
Still no evidence for the big guy upstairs
and ...
Ireland (good god-fearing Catholics)
defeated by Wales (heathens who worship a red dragon)
England (who include god in their national anthem)
defeated by France (barely human pagans who eat frogs and horses)
South Africa (whose ex-president looks like god!)
defeated by Australia (a land not ...[text shortened]... d catholics)
defeated by New Zealand (black magic followers)
It makes you think ............
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11 Oct 11
Originally posted by DasaOk lets say you have a proposition "G" for which you are trying to find/claim evidence "E".
You have said there is no evidence of God.
Evidence is plentiful.
(and ignoring the fact that from a scientific perspective what you should also, and mostly,
be trying to do is find evidence to disprove G, as that is usually the faster and more
powerful method)
To say that E proves or is evidence FOR G, then E can't be explainable by something else.
Moreover, even if you have no alternative explanation than G at the current time, you can't claim E is for, or proof, of G
if you haven't demonstrated that nothing else could explain E other than G.
If there are alternative explanations for E than G, or if you haven't ruled out the possibility of alternative explanations.
The E is simply evidence not inconsistent with G, and not proof of or evidence for G.
Given this, I would state there is no evidence For, or Proof of, God.
As all available evidence is either explicable via alternative means, or, the possibility of explanation by alternative means hasn't
been ruled out.
And neither the existence of the universe, or of life in it, is evidence for god, as both are explicable without one.
And even if they currently were not, you would still have to prove they can't be explained by any other means for their existence
to be evidence for or proof of god.
12 Oct 11
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Originally posted by wolfgang59It should be pretty obvious to anyone who's read at least some of the bible. God is on God's side. And He'll reveal Himself to whom He pleases when He pleases. The fact that God hasn't revealed Himself to your satisfaction yet, neither means He doesn't exist nor means He won't eventually reveal Himself to you. Hang in there. The match isn't over and you know what oft happens when people celebrate victory prematurely. 😉
Whose side is god on and what position is he playing? 😉